Neal Lawson

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The News Agents · Could Andy Burnham be the most important PM since Thatcher? · 24 Jul 2026 podcast

through to a better society.

And of course, legislation is important, but the extent and the nature of the legislation, you know, the example I cite in the New States piece is that there was huge pressures on Bevan when he was creating the NHS in the run-up to 1948, and big pressures to have an insurance-based scheme.

So to water it down, it's not free at the point of need, you have to pay for it through insurance.

And it was the might of the South Wales miners who insisted that it was going to be free at the point of need.

Now, what's the example of that today to say that when it comes to taxation, that there must be, there has to be a proper wealth tax in this country?

What are the forces, the trade unions, the social movements, the academics, the public intellectuals that will make that case irresistible?

And are they open to that?

And do they want to support that?

And do they want to work with those people?

Or do they think that all of this will be done in Downing Street or in Westminster?

And what do you mean by that?

Well, you know, the what, he's made the big statements.

That's right.

Roll back 40 years of neoliberalism.

We've discussed the fact that he needs to do more on what a future-looking, orientated agenda is.

It is the question of how.

And that move from being the sort of lone-gun movement

Mayor of Greater Manchester, where you can decide things yourself and make things happen largely untouched, with a budget, with people in a proximity, to shifting that to Westminster with all of the demands and all of the complexity and

all of the chaos it can't be done by one person however charming thoughtful you know and charismatic they are it's got to be done by a big team and a big movement and does he get that and is he going to put that in place what you're talking about now what you talked about in that in that piece is the importance of a labor prime minister to create a new settlement you know a new yeah

I think it's a really good question.

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