Neil Druckmann

What's nice for me is there's also a lot of heavy lifting that's happening in the writing that seems also effortless, but I know all the mechanics of it because we had a lot of conversations around it. And part of the fun of my job is to get a scene like this from Craig. Because what that scene needs to do is not only eventually Isabella has to sell us that she has these convictions.

What's nice for me is there's also a lot of heavy lifting that's happening in the writing that seems also effortless, but I know all the mechanics of it because we had a lot of conversations around it. And part of the fun of my job is to get a scene like this from Craig. Because what that scene needs to do is not only eventually Isabella has to sell us that she has these convictions.

She needs to convince the audience that even though she's pregnant, she has reason to keep going. There's something about this backstory that it's like a trauma that she has. And that's why she knows how Ellie feels because she's been there.

She needs to convince the audience that even though she's pregnant, she has reason to keep going. There's something about this backstory that it's like a trauma that she has. And that's why she knows how Ellie feels because she's been there.

Well, there's also this other quote from season one that's in the back of our minds, which is from Tess to say, you're not immune from getting ripped apart. Right. And so I think even though Ellie is saying, I can get bit a lot, you can't.

Well, there's also this other quote from season one that's in the back of our minds, which is from Tess to say, you're not immune from getting ripped apart. Right. And so I think even though Ellie is saying, I can get bit a lot, you can't.

And that goes back a conversation months prior to when we're concepting the stalkers and talking about, oh, how the cordyceps eats away parts of the eye. It's almost like having cataracts. You see people that have certain eye conditions. Their eye behaves in that way. So it's going back. It's based in science.

And that goes back a conversation months prior to when we're concepting the stalkers and talking about, oh, how the cordyceps eats away parts of the eye. It's almost like having cataracts. You see people that have certain eye conditions. Their eye behaves in that way. So it's going back. It's based in science.

I don't remember the conversations around this part, but we did something similar in the game at a different moment in time where Ellie's really traumatized, a moment that we'll see in episode seven, where in that moment as well, we had Ellie mistaken a different character for Joel.

I don't remember the conversations around this part, but we did something similar in the game at a different moment in time where Ellie's really traumatized, a moment that we'll see in episode seven, where in that moment as well, we had Ellie mistaken a different character for Joel.

So this just felt very natural to me of just Ellie's state of mind and that wishful thinking of wanting, wanting something so bad that you start to see it. of Joel coming to rescue her.

So this just felt very natural to me of just Ellie's state of mind and that wishful thinking of wanting, wanting something so bad that you start to see it. of Joel coming to rescue her.

Yeah, and he's rescuing her with one other person that also has a lot of those same qualities, which is Tommy. This is where you find out Tommy's also in Seattle, also looking for them. And they've disobeyed orders back in Jackson to come out here and save them.

Yeah, and he's rescuing her with one other person that also has a lot of those same qualities, which is Tommy. This is where you find out Tommy's also in Seattle, also looking for them. And they've disobeyed orders back in Jackson to come out here and save them.

Yeah, he does in the game in hopes that Ellie will not go to let her know, I've gone, so you stay.

Yeah, he does in the game in hopes that Ellie will not go to let her know, I've gone, so you stay.

There's this shame that's starting to wash over. The realization is like, now I've put Jesse and Tommy's life in danger as well. The cost keeps going up.

There's this shame that's starting to wash over. The realization is like, now I've put Jesse and Tommy's life in danger as well. The cost keeps going up.

There's this feeling. I remember we thought about this a lot when we made the game. We talked about this when we made the show. When you're a teenager, specifically your teenage years, you feel invincible. You think whatever is killing and hurting anybody else is not going to happen to me.

There's this feeling. I remember we thought about this a lot when we made the game. We talked about this when we made the show. When you're a teenager, specifically your teenage years, you feel invincible. You think whatever is killing and hurting anybody else is not going to happen to me.