Neil Treacy

I know cards weren't an issue.

And it's something we've mentioned a few times now.

You look at the penalty count.

It's only six penalties against Leinster on the day.

But Bordeaux's opening two tries come off the back of penalty advantages that didn't have to be cashed in.

They were also coming on a second penalty where they got into the 22, Leinster gave away a penalty.

They're able to take a chance.

If they don't score a try, they've got another free shot at going for a score as well.

And then the third try came from a penalty entry into the 22 as well.

It's a collection of errors and a collection of malfunctions, isn't it?

Because they've been doing it all season.

On the stuff around the water breaks and having a coach pitch side, I know from being at the Six Nations games over the last few weeks, you've often been down pitch side.

How big of a role is that aside from running on with a bottle and a kicking tee for Dan O'Brien?

Is there an influence you can have while you're down there?

real sobering afternoon to be a Leinster fan and yeah there's serious questions now around his team because they're not dad's army but the age profile is starting to creep up a little bit as well yeah Caelan Dorris actually spoke really well about the collisions after the match and just kind of going into detail of how I think specifically he was asked around how Leinster just struggled to kind of slow down that ball and you know he's saying it's not so much what they're doing at the ruck it's the collision before the ruck

And once you lose the first collision, you're more likely to lose the second collision.

And when you lose the second collision, you're more likely to lose the third collision.

And it's just this wave coming on you.

Some really, really interesting quotes on it.

I think if people can dig them out.