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Nic McKinley

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Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Former CIA Agent Exposes the Truth About Trafficking

To build this studio and the office building that I'm sitting in right now. I mean, it was probably years in the making. Yet with some of the skills that I learned at the Central Intelligence Agency and in military special ops, I could level this building in a matter of minutes. And so it's so much easier to destroy. And so to destroy is the lazy man's path, right?

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Former CIA Agent Exposes the Truth About Trafficking

To build this studio and the office building that I'm sitting in right now. I mean, it was probably years in the making. Yet with some of the skills that I learned at the Central Intelligence Agency and in military special ops, I could level this building in a matter of minutes. And so it's so much easier to destroy. And so to destroy is the lazy man's path, right?

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Former CIA Agent Exposes the Truth About Trafficking

to destroy is the oh, well, this person is executing and building and doing all these things. And so instead of just saying, I don't agree with the way you do, you're doing these things. So I'm going to go build better. Instead, they say, I don't you're you're a terrible human. When you can't attack the argument, you attack the person.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Former CIA Agent Exposes the Truth About Trafficking

to destroy is the oh, well, this person is executing and building and doing all these things. And so instead of just saying, I don't agree with the way you do, you're doing these things. So I'm going to go build better. Instead, they say, I don't you're you're a terrible human. When you can't attack the argument, you attack the person.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Former CIA Agent Exposes the Truth About Trafficking

And and I think another part of this is that drive and intellect are not equally distributed. And I have no idea who said it. It definitely wasn't wisdom coming from me. I stole this from somebody at some point. But paraphrasing, somebody famous once said something to the tune of, Stupid people talk about people and intelligent people talk about ideas. Yeah.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Former CIA Agent Exposes the Truth About Trafficking

And and I think another part of this is that drive and intellect are not equally distributed. And I have no idea who said it. It definitely wasn't wisdom coming from me. I stole this from somebody at some point. But paraphrasing, somebody famous once said something to the tune of, Stupid people talk about people and intelligent people talk about ideas. Yeah.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Former CIA Agent Exposes the Truth About Trafficking

And so if you can't attack the idea because you can't intellectually hang, like you intellectually can't attack the idea, then what are you going to do? You're going to attack the person.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Former CIA Agent Exposes the Truth About Trafficking

And so if you can't attack the idea because you can't intellectually hang, like you intellectually can't attack the idea, then what are you going to do? You're going to attack the person.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Former CIA Agent Exposes the Truth About Trafficking

Right. They just talk. It's you are never going to get hate. from somebody who's done more than you. It always comes from the people who have done less than you. I mean, I have mentors that I surround myself with who will call balls and strikes and say, Nick, we don't think you should have done that. You really screwed up here. Have you thought about doing this differently? And I listen to them.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Former CIA Agent Exposes the Truth About Trafficking

Right. They just talk. It's you are never going to get hate. from somebody who's done more than you. It always comes from the people who have done less than you. I mean, I have mentors that I surround myself with who will call balls and strikes and say, Nick, we don't think you should have done that. You really screwed up here. Have you thought about doing this differently? And I listen to them.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Former CIA Agent Exposes the Truth About Trafficking

And every single one of them is... economies of scale more successful than I am. They've forgotten more about their levels of expertise than I will ever know. For the most part, probably better people than I could ever be. And yet I learn from them and I listen to them. And never do I get hate from those people. It's always from people who've done less.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Former CIA Agent Exposes the Truth About Trafficking

And every single one of them is... economies of scale more successful than I am. They've forgotten more about their levels of expertise than I will ever know. For the most part, probably better people than I could ever be. And yet I learn from them and I listen to them. And never do I get hate from those people. It's always from people who've done less.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Former CIA Agent Exposes the Truth About Trafficking

And I've had people attack me to say, oh, well, Nick was in special ops, but he didn't really do that much. I was like, okay, well, I guess my 14 combat deployments didn't really count. Oh, well, Nick was at the CIA, but it's not like he was really doing operations. Okay, well, I guess my 16 combat deployments there don't really count. Well, Nick may have went to Harvard, but it was extension.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Former CIA Agent Exposes the Truth About Trafficking

And I've had people attack me to say, oh, well, Nick was in special ops, but he didn't really do that much. I was like, okay, well, I guess my 14 combat deployments didn't really count. Oh, well, Nick was at the CIA, but it's not like he was really doing operations. Okay, well, I guess my 16 combat deployments there don't really count. Well, Nick may have went to Harvard, but it was extension.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Former CIA Agent Exposes the Truth About Trafficking

So it doesn't really count. I'm like, oh, really? I had to pass the same test as everybody else to get in, right? I mean, so, well, yeah, Nick was an entrepreneur. And yeah, he's had this nonprofit that's been around for 10 years and one technology company. And now he's got another one and they're venture capital backed. But that's just because, insert excuse on why I can't do the same thing.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Former CIA Agent Exposes the Truth About Trafficking

So it doesn't really count. I'm like, oh, really? I had to pass the same test as everybody else to get in, right? I mean, so, well, yeah, Nick was an entrepreneur. And yeah, he's had this nonprofit that's been around for 10 years and one technology company. And now he's got another one and they're venture capital backed. But that's just because, insert excuse on why I can't do the same thing.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Former CIA Agent Exposes the Truth About Trafficking

What they don't know is that I'm 47 years old. I've never had a vacation in my entire adult life because I have just always been executing on the mission. I have a few hobbies because it's kind of what you need for health. But that's the reason that I do them. That or it's, you know, things that I'm going to do with my kids and my family because that has to be mission number one.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Former CIA Agent Exposes the Truth About Trafficking

What they don't know is that I'm 47 years old. I've never had a vacation in my entire adult life because I have just always been executing on the mission. I have a few hobbies because it's kind of what you need for health. But that's the reason that I do them. That or it's, you know, things that I'm going to do with my kids and my family because that has to be mission number one.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Former CIA Agent Exposes the Truth About Trafficking

But beyond that, it's like, no, like, what do I want to do? Well, I've got I've got half a day where I've got nothing to do. Awesome. I've got I've got work to do because my goal is so impossibly big that there's no possible way that I will reach it if I don't continually work on it.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Former CIA Agent Exposes the Truth About Trafficking

But beyond that, it's like, no, like, what do I want to do? Well, I've got I've got half a day where I've got nothing to do. Awesome. I've got I've got work to do because my goal is so impossibly big that there's no possible way that I will reach it if I don't continually work on it.