Nick Ferrari

100%, I think that's right.

Restore really have now split whatever voter base there was for the far-right parties.

Your listeners will be familiar with the policies of Reform UK.

The policies of Restore are far more strident.

They even talk about deportation and matters such as that.

It is a party that

Well, when my colleague, my reporter, went up to Makerfield, he couldn't actually find anyone to say that they would vote for him.

And the votes that came in was 3,111.

I remind you, the victor, Andy Byrne, got 24,927.

So Restore was saying that they get double digits.

They didn't.

I'm delighted to say they got just over 3,000.

But to your point, yes.

I think Conservative voters seeing there would think, yes, we want to send a message.

We probably do want Starmer out as PM.

Let's be sure we will lend our vote to Andy Burnham.

And Reform are trying to say that that's why they didn't perform.

I remind you, they came at 15,000.

696.

So even if you combine reform and restore, you're still considerably shy of what Andy Burnham got.