Nick Jonsson
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71 appearances
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first heard May 2025
last heard May 2025
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Others carried me and lifted me. And now what am I doing today? I'm paying it back. I'm helping others. I actually just got a message before our meeting today from someone who a man who's today had one year sobriety. And he said, this is the best year of my life. He found himself deeper. He no longer need to run to the bar to drink off the work to wind down.
He can deal with his emotions in different ways. He can talk to his therapist. He can now have conversations with his wife about feeling something that he didn't dare to do before. So I think it's, again, becoming authentic, becoming vulnerable. and really take ownership for what we're facing and deal with them. And that is why I keep going.
I'm now seven years into my journey coming back and I'm just loving it.
Yeah, there's a few things that really stand out. And being a coach myself as well, I typically look at the wheel of life, the eight areas of the life. And I normally ask my participants to do a self-assessment to look at the different areas. And there is consistency. It doesn't matter where I do the workshop. The biggest gaps always is on physical health.
People, especially if you're driving the corporate world high, you are in senior roles, then people feel that They want to have a physical health. They will say the desired score might be a nine or a 10 on a scale of a 10, but they're sitting at the three or four. That is always the biggest gap. And I experienced that today again.
So people don't find the time and the discipline or the means to actually look after themselves, not exercising well enough, not having a good enough diet and just burning themselves at both. And that is the major issue that I'm facing.
I think if you've got to deliver in a leadership position, you've got to have the house in order. You've got to really have a strong foundation to work on that. And I talk a lot about professional athletes. I do the Ironman triathlons myself. So I exercise on average about three hours a day to look after myself to be able to deliver at the high level.
And I question people then who perhaps don't even go for a walk, who never move at all. All they do is working. And it's almost like if you compare this to a professional athlete, then imagine if you're an athlete and all you do is coming in and do going competitions. You never train, you never rest, you never prepare yourself.
you're always just competing so that's how i see the people who come to work they work 12 14 16 hours a day without preparing for it no wonder they're going to burn out and no wonder that the results are not going to be what they should there's mistakes and there's all kind of issues happening that's why eventually they need different ways to cope and that's why drugs alcohol and other addiction social media and so on is coming into play they're seeking this
a sheep route, a shortcut to an escape rather than dealing with it, which would be perhaps to connect with nature through a hike or a walk or a jog or a swim or a cycle or something else.
one where do you think is that just our kind of pleasure-seeking culture that's been shoved down our throats through social media and just in general advertising and products yeah and that's the most common excuse what i'm hearing then is i don't have time for it all there's all these excuses but what i'm saying then especially if we're talking about leaders here i say if you are a leader
the way i think about it the time you spend sitting in meetings on zoom or you're sitting on your computer working or sending emails that's when you are the administrator i said if you're a leader you need your ceo time you need your creativity you need your strategy time and you've got to be in top-notch creativity and in the right space to do that and that will that moment will not come sitting in the office that will come when you jump out of the pool
You come from that jog or that run or even during the run, that's when it will come to you. That's when you get the million-dollar decisions. So if you don't get that, then you're never going to perform at the high level. I block three-hour slots every morning for my self-time.
It doesn't mean that I go for a workout all that time, but that's my prayer, my meditation, my self-care, can be my exercise, whatever it is. And that's non-negotiable. If I have to move that in the morning, then it will come in the afternoon or the evening. And that is how I keep myself in that form to deliver. But to answer then your question, what do people do? Shortcuts.
We have all these great apps. We have Netflix that starts autoplaying an episode and someone is maybe spending time watching the news following the world affairs, even though they're not in control of the world affairs. So I think we've got to prioritize what we do.
And they were actually laughing today in the workshop when I explained that in March 2020, during the lockdowns, during COVID, I had enough of the news and I uninstalled the TV and I haven't plugged it in since then.
That's right. I haven't watched any mainstream news since 2020. Wow, good for you.
Yeah, that's fascinating. I get some part of it. Of course, I get it by memes. I follow all the news.
Yeah, we have covered a bit on it, and it is the lack of support, the lack of support system. We touched on that as well. That's a huge one. And the workshop today, for example, mainly from big MSC's company, they don't have that in place. They don't have it. They don't have anyone they speak with. And of course, when you ask why, they say, my company provide an internal mentoring program.
And what is happening then? If you have an internal mentor, it happens the same as when I had mine. We're trying to impress that person instead when we have the conversation. Why? Because that person probably have a say in your next promotion. You wouldn't be open and vulnerable and share your biggest challenges, what you're facing to someone internally.
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