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Nick Jonsson

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142 total appearances

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Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Why Entrepreneurs Are Depressed (And No One Cares Until It’s Too Late)

as a place that you couldn't trust people but looking back in hindsight it was perhaps that i couldn't trust myself i was just immature the self-respect was there not there the self-love was not there that's something that only came after i went through my crisis i had my 40 years crisis basically for a couple of years after that i found myself but why do we have to go through something so dramatic to really hit what i did my rock bottom and then build myself back up why couldn't i have done that without

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Why Entrepreneurs Are Depressed (And No One Cares Until It’s Too Late)

as a place that you couldn't trust people but looking back in hindsight it was perhaps that i couldn't trust myself i was just immature the self-respect was there not there the self-love was not there that's something that only came after i went through my crisis i had my 40 years crisis basically for a couple of years after that i found myself but why do we have to go through something so dramatic to really hit what i did my rock bottom and then build myself back up why couldn't i have done that without

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Why Entrepreneurs Are Depressed (And No One Cares Until It’s Too Late)

this journey, I wasn't vulnerable before. I was not ready for it. And I remember even in my office, downstairs was one of the 12-step programs for alcoholics. And I remember looking at that meeting room and thinking, poor buggers who have to go there, only to find myself in that chair a couple of years later on asking for help, you know?

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Why Entrepreneurs Are Depressed (And No One Cares Until It’s Too Late)

this journey, I wasn't vulnerable before. I was not ready for it. And I remember even in my office, downstairs was one of the 12-step programs for alcoholics. And I remember looking at that meeting room and thinking, poor buggers who have to go there, only to find myself in that chair a couple of years later on asking for help, you know?

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Why Entrepreneurs Are Depressed (And No One Cares Until It’s Too Late)

yeah absolutely i believe that what really helped me was then and back to that support group that i joined was to be around other men who are older than me and listening to them and hearing their journey if we're looking back perhaps how men became men in the past there was more of a hands-on job we were with the fathers the grandfathers we were all doing work together we had mentors we had role models we learned that is not there anymore and i think that there's a big gap that at least i could feel and

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Why Entrepreneurs Are Depressed (And No One Cares Until It’s Too Late)

yeah absolutely i believe that what really helped me was then and back to that support group that i joined was to be around other men who are older than me and listening to them and hearing their journey if we're looking back perhaps how men became men in the past there was more of a hands-on job we were with the fathers the grandfathers we were all doing work together we had mentors we had role models we learned that is not there anymore and i think that there's a big gap that at least i could feel and

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Why Entrepreneurs Are Depressed (And No One Cares Until It’s Too Late)

I also didn't do things like joining the army or the military, which was also compulsory in Sweden, where I grew up in the past. And people said, you become a man when you do that for one or two years, going through a little bit of tough and hardness. I didn't have that in my life. So therefore, it seemed I needed my crash and my fall and admit that I needed to do what they call in recovery.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Why Entrepreneurs Are Depressed (And No One Cares Until It’s Too Late)

I also didn't do things like joining the army or the military, which was also compulsory in Sweden, where I grew up in the past. And people said, you become a man when you do that for one or two years, going through a little bit of tough and hardness. I didn't have that in my life. So therefore, it seemed I needed my crash and my fall and admit that I needed to do what they call in recovery.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Why Entrepreneurs Are Depressed (And No One Cares Until It’s Too Late)

I needed to surrender and then look at others, what I was doing and picking up the good pieces there.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Why Entrepreneurs Are Depressed (And No One Cares Until It’s Too Late)

I needed to surrender and then look at others, what I was doing and picking up the good pieces there.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Why Entrepreneurs Are Depressed (And No One Cares Until It’s Too Late)

Yeah, I've also heard that. And people think, and even some of the women that heard that we are running this men's group, they actually didn't even believe it. They thought I was joking when I said it. And some of the guys have said, no, that's definitely not for me. I would never join that. But those are perhaps the people who would need it the most. And I was one of those people also before.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Why Entrepreneurs Are Depressed (And No One Cares Until It’s Too Late)

Yeah, I've also heard that. And people think, and even some of the women that heard that we are running this men's group, they actually didn't even believe it. They thought I was joking when I said it. And some of the guys have said, no, that's definitely not for me. I would never join that. But those are perhaps the people who would need it the most. And I was one of those people also before.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Why Entrepreneurs Are Depressed (And No One Cares Until It’s Too Late)

And it takes a while before we get there. So I would say we all need to open our mind a little bit, I think, in general, because that's a better place when we are joining groups and we can listen to others who especially are a few years older than us, then we can pick up so much.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Why Entrepreneurs Are Depressed (And No One Cares Until It’s Too Late)

And it takes a while before we get there. So I would say we all need to open our mind a little bit, I think, in general, because that's a better place when we are joining groups and we can listen to others who especially are a few years older than us, then we can pick up so much.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Why Entrepreneurs Are Depressed (And No One Cares Until It’s Too Late)

Yeah. And that was by getting the support of others. I had others who lifted me up. And again, I go back to these kind of recovery meetings because they're very valuable here. I was wondering when I came in there and I admit that I had a drinking problem, I was surprised that around that table were people who had one month sobriety, three months sobriety, seven years sobriety, 30 years sobriety.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Why Entrepreneurs Are Depressed (And No One Cares Until It’s Too Late)

Yeah. And that was by getting the support of others. I had others who lifted me up. And again, I go back to these kind of recovery meetings because they're very valuable here. I was wondering when I came in there and I admit that I had a drinking problem, I was surprised that around that table were people who had one month sobriety, three months sobriety, seven years sobriety, 30 years sobriety.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Why Entrepreneurs Are Depressed (And No One Cares Until It’s Too Late)

And I was thinking, poor buggers who are coming here for 30 years. And I thought, what's wrong with them? If they stopped drinking 30 years ago, what are they doing here? I found out later on the reason why they are there is to give back to help others. They were there for me. And that is the 12th step in all the programs, the 12th step.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Why Entrepreneurs Are Depressed (And No One Cares Until It’s Too Late)

And I was thinking, poor buggers who are coming here for 30 years. And I thought, what's wrong with them? If they stopped drinking 30 years ago, what are they doing here? I found out later on the reason why they are there is to give back to help others. They were there for me. And that is the 12th step in all the programs, the 12th step.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Why Entrepreneurs Are Depressed (And No One Cares Until It’s Too Late)

It doesn't matter if it's food addiction, alcohol addiction, gambling or sex addiction, whatever issue there is, the 12th step is to give it back. And there's a saying in the recovery community which says, you've got to give back the gift to keep it. And that's what we're talking about here. So to answer your question, why did I continue to go up? Because I had others who helped me.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Why Entrepreneurs Are Depressed (And No One Cares Until It’s Too Late)

It doesn't matter if it's food addiction, alcohol addiction, gambling or sex addiction, whatever issue there is, the 12th step is to give it back. And there's a saying in the recovery community which says, you've got to give back the gift to keep it. And that's what we're talking about here. So to answer your question, why did I continue to go up? Because I had others who helped me.