Nick Martell

Like ABLE, Jack and I always say, always be launching everything.

But funny, we asked the Poppy founders of the prebiotic soda when we interviewed them in Austin a few months ago.

Another shark tank.

Yes, another great shark tank success story.

We asked about work-life balance.

And Allison said it doesn't exist if you're a founder.

If you want to be a successful founder, you have to sacrifice work-life balance.

So then when you're making decisions like that, like even taking your son or when you're going to launch something, like Jack and I are always curious, like how much of it is like guts versus graphs, metrics versus magic, like information versus intuition?

How do you make the decisions?

Thermostat 2.0.

All right, well, Jamie, it's been wonderful to have you with us.

But before we let you go, we did have some rapid-fire questions for you and a question we always ask our guests at the end.

Okay, so what is the best brand in business?

Ring.

That isn't Ring, Jamie.

I mean, come on, come on.

By the way, for everyone listening, Jamie is wearing Ring socks, so we will accept that answer.

He has the Ring logo on his socks.

Kind of that consummate, just that fighter.

Well, like you, we did a whole episode on Disneyland.