Nick Offerman

And she also did the recent Emma Stone movie of the 101 Dalmatians villain.

Yeah, Cruella de Vil.

Cruella, and she did The Father with Anthony Hopkins and Olivia Colman.

So this incredible British hair and makeup artist created that look.

Alex sent like a reference photo of just this surfer dude.

So that was a wig that had a bunch of bald on top.

So I shaved my head.

And then had this huge beard, which then made Ginger to go with it.

So my favorite thing in the world is to look unrecognizable.

And she really hit it out of the park.

I was so tickled to get to do that for six months.

Well, Nick, thank you so much for helping us to understand the world in a more curious and humorous and really charming way.

And thank you for joining me today on Design Matters.

Well, it's absolutely my pleasure.

Thanks for your great podcast.

Thank you.

Nick Offerman's latest book is titled Where the Deer and the Antelope Play, The Pastoral Observations of One Ignorant American Who Loves to Walk Outside.

You could also see him in the Netflix series Colin in Black and White and the amazing science fiction thriller Devs on FX on Hulu.

You can find out more about Nick Offerman, his books, and his other projects at nickofferman.co.

This is the 17th year we've been podcasting Design Matters, and I'd like to thank you for listening.