Nick Pell

It's illegal. And it's considered one of the most transgressive acts that a human being can commit against human morality. But in the sense of forced labor, I think if we don't count forced labor as some kind of slavery, we can't really talk about modern day slavery much at all. And I think that the distinction is important, but that we can call both slavery.

It's illegal. And it's considered one of the most transgressive acts that a human being can commit against human morality. But in the sense of forced labor, I think if we don't count forced labor as some kind of slavery, we can't really talk about modern day slavery much at all. And I think that the distinction is important, but that we can call both slavery.

It's illegal. And it's considered one of the most transgressive acts that a human being can commit against human morality. But in the sense of forced labor, I think if we don't count forced labor as some kind of slavery, we can't really talk about modern day slavery much at all. And I think that the distinction is important, but that we can call both slavery.

No, it's not. It's enshrined in the United States Constitution. I'm going to read directly from the 13th Amendment of the United States Constitution, the amendment that most Americans erroneously think bans slavery. Quote begins, neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime,

No, it's not. It's enshrined in the United States Constitution. I'm going to read directly from the 13th Amendment of the United States Constitution, the amendment that most Americans erroneously think bans slavery. Quote begins, neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime,

No, it's not. It's enshrined in the United States Constitution. I'm going to read directly from the 13th Amendment of the United States Constitution, the amendment that most Americans erroneously think bans slavery. Quote begins, neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime,

whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States or any place subject to their jurisdiction. So prisoners are still allowed to be slaves. And that's big business in this country. There's 800,000 Americans in prison. We have the highest incarceration rate of any country in the world, I believe.

whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States or any place subject to their jurisdiction. So prisoners are still allowed to be slaves. And that's big business in this country. There's 800,000 Americans in prison. We have the highest incarceration rate of any country in the world, I believe.

whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States or any place subject to their jurisdiction. So prisoners are still allowed to be slaves. And that's big business in this country. There's 800,000 Americans in prison. We have the highest incarceration rate of any country in the world, I believe.

No, and I understand that distinction, and I do think it's an important one, but there's a special carve-out for this type of forced labor in the United States, and it's profitable. Yeah.

No, and I understand that distinction, and I do think it's an important one, but there's a special carve-out for this type of forced labor in the United States, and it's profitable. Yeah.

No, and I understand that distinction, and I do think it's an important one, but there's a special carve-out for this type of forced labor in the United States, and it's profitable. Yeah.

Yeah. So there's some polling from these convict laborers. 64% feel unsafe at work, 70% receive no training, and 76% said they'd be punished if they didn't work. And to be fair, like, I have friends who've done... Pretty serious prison time. I went to jail for 90 days for DUI. Giant grain of salt any time inmates speak. They're not generally the most notoriously honest people.

Yeah. So there's some polling from these convict laborers. 64% feel unsafe at work, 70% receive no training, and 76% said they'd be punished if they didn't work. And to be fair, like, I have friends who've done... Pretty serious prison time. I went to jail for 90 days for DUI. Giant grain of salt any time inmates speak. They're not generally the most notoriously honest people.

Yeah. So there's some polling from these convict laborers. 64% feel unsafe at work, 70% receive no training, and 76% said they'd be punished if they didn't work. And to be fair, like, I have friends who've done... Pretty serious prison time. I went to jail for 90 days for DUI. Giant grain of salt any time inmates speak. They're not generally the most notoriously honest people.

But my point here is it's just not true that we don't have slavery in the sense of forced labor in the United States, that this was abolished. It's not. It's enshrined in the Constitution.

But my point here is it's just not true that we don't have slavery in the sense of forced labor in the United States, that this was abolished. It's not. It's enshrined in the Constitution.

But my point here is it's just not true that we don't have slavery in the sense of forced labor in the United States, that this was abolished. It's not. It's enshrined in the Constitution.

And that's just one example.

And that's just one example.