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Nick Pyenson

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The Documentary Podcast
Sheba: Just Like Us?

This guy's going to need a little friend and I'm going to be it.

The Documentary Podcast
Sheba: Just Like Us?

I was kind of surprised that the New York people had so much trouble controlling them and he was biting everybody and that sort of thing.

The Documentary Podcast
Sheba: Just Like Us?

It didn't occur to me that I was going to have any trouble at all.

The Documentary Podcast
Sheba: Just Like Us?

And

The Documentary Podcast
Sheba: Just Like Us?

And in no time, we were rough and tumble playing and doing the kind of things, you know, you have to be a chimp to be with a chimp.

The Documentary Podcast
Sheba: Just Like Us?

You can approximate the relationship that chimps have with one another if you're willing to roll around and tickle and play and that kind of stuff.

The Documentary Podcast
Sheba: Just Like Us?

So that's what I did.

The Documentary Podcast
Sheba: Just Like Us?

I can.

The Documentary Podcast
Sheba: Just Like Us?

That was a day that I'd spent out with the chimps all day, and I'd taken four or five chimps out and came back, and we had squared them away, got them back in their cages, and I had walked out to my car to drive away and come home.

The Documentary Podcast
Sheba: Just Like Us?

And as I was getting in my car about to close the door, I looked at the chimps all lined up in their cage and they were looking at me behind the bars and I was going home.

The Documentary Podcast
Sheba: Just Like Us?

Air conditioning, a TV and that sort of thing and a refrigerator with whatever I wanted in it.

The Documentary Podcast
Sheba: Just Like Us?

And they were in that cage at the mercy of whatever it was that we provided for them.

The Documentary Podcast
Sheba: Just Like Us?

And that's it.

The Documentary Podcast
Sheba: Just Like Us?

They couldn't get out.

The Documentary Podcast
Sheba: Just Like Us?

They couldn't go home.

The Documentary Podcast
Sheba: Just Like Us?

So all of those philosophical questions just rushed into my brain right at the same time.

The Documentary Podcast
Sheba: Just Like Us?

And from that point on,

The Documentary Podcast
Sheba: Just Like Us?

Things changed for me because up to that point I thought it was cool and everything was cool.

The Documentary Podcast
Sheba: Just Like Us?

That day I realised everything's not cool and everything is not good and I was determined to do something about it.

The Documentary Podcast
Sheba: Just Like Us?

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