Nicole Kalil

And what's interesting in my experience with leadership is often when I teach something or I suggest something to someone else, it makes me model it more.

Right.

Like then I want to be more of the example.

I want to take my own advice.

And so it was experience and then witnessing the effects and other people.

And then just it became this lifelong journey.

Yeah.

Also added that one of the most surprising things that I uncovered in like my journey to understand what builds confidence and what derails it is that mistakes, failure, losses, missteps, those things actually build our confidence, not derail it.

So like your example right there is like, obviously you felt at the moment that that was a mistake.

But the byproduct of it was people perceived you as confident.

You were being authentic.

There's so many things that come on the other side that build and reinforce our confidence from those failures and those mistakes.

So that's been an interesting discovery.

Yeah, so writing a book has always been on my bucket list, like from a very, very young age.

I'm an avid reader, typically read like 60 books a year.

So, you know, I wanted to write a book for as long as I can remember.

Ironically, once I committed to doing it and started putting one foot in front of the other and getting into action towards writing the book, I had originally had a different book in mind.

I was gonna write a book debunking some of the success principles or some of the advice we get about being successful.

Things like the morning routine or the kind of hard work, grit and grind.

Things that come at us from a little bit more of a masculine lens.