Nicole Perlroth

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463 appearances 2 recordings 1 series first heard Jul 2026 last heard 14 Sep

Nicole Perlroth’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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Did they steal IP?
Did they steal data?
And for the most part, and it was really weird, they're just there for the paycheck.
And my understanding was this is basically a way to get a steady form of funding, like almost like their ARR to fund sort of these larger hacking crypto heists that can take a year in some cases of careful planning.
Right.
So they may not be stealing.
They want jobs and they want to hide themselves.
As they're talking to each other, they're looking for these red flags.
And as they find them, they're firing these people.
And so these people still have to monetize their access.
And we're starting to see some more extortion cases and data theft and that kind of thing.
Okay, so this was fascinating.
I was like, who are these people that are just taking corporate laptops, hosting them in their house?
So I wanted to go meet with one of these people.
And the only case that we've really heard about publicly is a woman in Arizona named Christina Chapman, who is hosting something like 60 laptops for the North Koreans.
And so I was trying to find others, and it turns out a lot of these people have serious criminal records.
They're Americans who, for whatever reason, can't get work.
They're posting on a Reddit channel, hey, I'm looking for quick cash, and that's where the North Koreans are finding them.
Sometimes they post that they're looking for work on LinkedIn, and that's how the North Koreans find them.
But a lot of them have criminal backgrounds, which is why they can't get work, and maybe why they're willing to accept laptops from a total stranger.
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