Nicole Wallace
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Thank you so much for having me. I've never used Mike's shot. This is where my husband usually then. So I'm sitting in his chair. So thank you for having me.
Thank you so much for having me. I've never used Mike's shot. This is where my husband usually then. So I'm sitting in his chair. So thank you for having me.
You know, I stayed out of it completely. So he deserves all of the credit.
You know, I stayed out of it completely. So he deserves all of the credit.
Well, I mean, the idea that we're flying blind is so terrifying, but we only think of it in the context of flying blind vis-a-vis our adversaries. And it's difficult in this context to even make clear which side is our adversary, right? But I think we had a similar reaction to Trump's ambush of Zelensky in the Oval Office.
Well, I mean, the idea that we're flying blind is so terrifying, but we only think of it in the context of flying blind vis-a-vis our adversaries. And it's difficult in this context to even make clear which side is our adversary, right? But I think we had a similar reaction to Trump's ambush of Zelensky in the Oval Office.
But one of the things that has taken a minute to reveal itself is just how blind we would be to how Ukraine would respond and how Ukraine would proceed. And I think there are a lot of things that we have to reevaluate and change the conventional wisdom.
But one of the things that has taken a minute to reveal itself is just how blind we would be to how Ukraine would respond and how Ukraine would proceed. And I think there are a lot of things that we have to reevaluate and change the conventional wisdom.
The idea that Ukraine is the underdog is still correct, but the idea that Ukraine will not score massive victories in this war and do massive damage to Russia that will also have implications to our national security was probably an erroneous assumption. The idea that Trump aligned us with Russia is something that the world is still sifting through. But the fact is we are flying blind.
The idea that Ukraine is the underdog is still correct, but the idea that Ukraine will not score massive victories in this war and do massive damage to Russia that will also have implications to our national security was probably an erroneous assumption. The idea that Trump aligned us with Russia is something that the world is still sifting through. But the fact is we are flying blind.
And that is terrifying vis-a-vis Ukraine and Russia. It's terrifying vis-a-vis Ukraine. China and the tariffs, it's obvious that we have no idea what's happening inside China and their economy. And we have no idea what's happening inside Ukraine and Russia and the war there. And that is probably the larger, scarier national security piece of what Trump has accomplished in 130 days.
And that is terrifying vis-a-vis Ukraine and Russia. It's terrifying vis-a-vis Ukraine. China and the tariffs, it's obvious that we have no idea what's happening inside China and their economy. And we have no idea what's happening inside Ukraine and Russia and the war there. And that is probably the larger, scarier national security piece of what Trump has accomplished in 130 days.
Well, look, I heard from Sue Gordon tonight. I mean, the national security DNA is so wired to protect America, right? I mean, they are so hardwired to do everything in their power and to apply everything they know and all the relationships they have across our alliances in service of, you know, protecting this country.
Well, look, I heard from Sue Gordon tonight. I mean, the national security DNA is so wired to protect America, right? I mean, they are so hardwired to do everything in their power and to apply everything they know and all the relationships they have across our alliances in service of, you know, protecting this country.
And so there's no way that they wouldn't return to those roles and those traditional, you But what's so bat bleep crazy is that we even have to ask those questions. And I was watching your open and it rightfully focuses on the technology. I think when we look at it, and I watched your A block with tears streaming down my face, it's more about what will we lose in the near term?
And so there's no way that they wouldn't return to those roles and those traditional, you But what's so bat bleep crazy is that we even have to ask those questions. And I was watching your open and it rightfully focuses on the technology. I think when we look at it, and I watched your A block with tears streaming down my face, it's more about what will we lose in the near term?
And what will we lose in terms of our standing in the world when you see a government so distant from its own people? I mean, as you said on the immigration story, as is true on the tariff story, which I spent a lot of time on today, Trump is moving the country away from what the people want it to be. And when you look at what Ukraine did, it didn't just score a massive military victory.
And what will we lose in terms of our standing in the world when you see a government so distant from its own people? I mean, as you said on the immigration story, as is true on the tariff story, which I spent a lot of time on today, Trump is moving the country away from what the people want it to be. And when you look at what Ukraine did, it didn't just score a massive military victory.
It displayed technological competence that is the envy of the world this morning. So it's not just that we're on the wrong side. It's not just that we're flying blind. It's that we may have missed out on an unbelievable technological breakthrough that we, heaven forbid, might need someday.
It displayed technological competence that is the envy of the world this morning. So it's not just that we're on the wrong side. It's not just that we're flying blind. It's that we may have missed out on an unbelievable technological breakthrough that we, heaven forbid, might need someday.