Nicolle Wallace

And I wonder if you think a decisive reaction from the country in the midterms, does that break the fever of the corporate capitulation?

Like our diet is sick.

How much responsibility do you place on the Democratic Party?

Trump made it look pretty stupid, right?

When he was like, the guy's a winner and I like him a lot.

And I think New York City is going to be great.

Or if you didn't like him, I thought it was just notable that they wouldn't say one more of the others.

Yeah, just say you don't like him then.

I mean, like I worked for a guy who ran on the idea that you may not always agree with me, but you'll always know where I stand.

Right.

And, you know, there is something that voters respect about strength, even when they disagree with you.

And straight shooters.

Yeah.

Windmill sharks, yeah.

Yeah.

I guess my last question is, do you derive any hope in what you're seeing people react to and respond to, whether it's Kimmel, whether it's the off-year elections, whether it's the ICE shooting, or do you rate the country as sort of numb?

It's extraordinary.

I mean, I cover those two stories.

You were here on the show.

I covered those two stories.