Nigel Yalden

So it's funny that you talk about the Hurricanes like that.

You talk about the Chiefs like that.

The Crusaders fans are sitting there going, we've seen this as well.

We're coming right at the right time of the year.

We're a June rugby team.

So the only team out of the four where people are going, we haven't seen this really before are the Blues.

Yeah.

Throughout the regular season, I haven't seen a lot of difference.

And I think the change from Clayton McMillan to John O'Gibbs has been pretty seamless.

I mean, I know when Clayton made the announcement that he was going overseas, there was conversations of, you know, we'll go through the process and all that sort of a thing.

I think it was pretty obvious to everybody that John O'Gibbs was going to be the person to take over.

When you look at his overseas experience that he has guarded, he's been with the New Zealand under-20s, he sort of ticked

All of those boxes had been in the system.

And I haven't really seen a lot of change.

The Chiefs have always been a team that want to dominate the collision.

Well, that's right in Jono's wheelhouse.

He absolutely preaches that from the pulpit every Sunday morning.

He is a guy that will, you know, demand excellence.

Well, Clayton McMillan did exactly the same.

So when we talk about what differences have I've seen, very little.