Nilay Patel

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36,525 appearances 131 recordings 4 series first heard Aug 2024 last heard yesterday

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Decoder with Nilay Patel · Can CEO John Ternus find Apple's next big thing? · 21 Sep 2026 podcast

And in particular, Steve Jobs himself getting up and doing a keynote and famously putting up pictures of all the existing smartphones and saying, Well, these all suck. voice-verified

And here's the reasons they all suck. voice-verified

And here's the iPhone and here's why it's better. voice-verified

And that created one kind of relationship between Apple's enormous community of fans, its leader, and the products. voice-verified

And I think that was very successful. voice-verified

I think the Tim Cook era has been meaningfully different. voice-verified

I think it is it's largely a a story about scale. voice-verified

To some extent, it's a story about values. voice-verified

To a huge extent, it's a story about privacy, right? voice-verified

Apple has marketed itself as the privacy company. voice-verified

It's fought the FBI to keep the iPhone encrypted. voice-verified

There's a lot there with Tim Cook's version of the company that's more corporate. voice-verified

It it's certainly it's just a vaster company, it's safer, it's not as rough around the edges as the Jobs Apple, but it wasn't as device-based. voice-verified

I don't think the Vision Pro has the same kind of mainstream cultural impact as even like the hockey puck mouse that Jobs like put out. voice-verified

Like there was a thing that he could do with products that the Tim Tim Cook Apple could not quite do with products. voice-verified

And that just feels really different to me. voice-verified

comparison there I think is good, right? voice-verified

There people have invested in it, they they care deeply about it. voice-verified

Uh the the comparison I'm making is the relationship people have to Apple in the Cook era is as an institution. voice-verified

Right. voice-verified

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