Noam Brown

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1,199 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Dec 2022 last heard Dec 2022

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And then at that point, it started to look like the humans were coming back.
But poker is a very high variance game.
And I think what happened is they thought that they spotted some weaknesses that weren't actually there.
And then around day eight, it was just very clear that they were getting absolutely crushed.
Um, and, and from that point, I mean, for, for a while there, I was super stressed out thinking like, oh my God, the humans are coming back and we're just, they've found weaknesses and now we're just going to lose the whole thing.
But no, it ended up going in the other direction and the bot ended up like crushing them in the long run.
I felt a lot of, a lot of things, man.
I mean, at that point in my life, I had spent five years working on this project and it was a huge sense of accomplishment.
I mean, to spend five years working on something and finally see it succeed.
Yeah.
I wouldn't trade that for anything in the world.
Yeah.
And I mean, this is, this is what I had been dreaming about since I was like 16 playing poker, you know, with my friends in high school, the idea that you could find a strategy, you know, approximate the Nash equilibrium, be able to beat all the poker players in the world with it, you know, so to actually see that come to fruition and be realized that was, it's kind of magical.
Yeah, so I mentioned, you know, Nash equilibrium in two-player zero-sum games.
If you play that strategy, you are guaranteed to not lose an expectation no matter what your opponent does.
Now, once you go to six-player poker, you're no longer playing a two-player zero-sum game.
And so there was a lot of debate among the academic community and among the poker community about how well these techniques would extend beyond just two-player heads-up poker.
Now, what I had come to realize is that the techniques actually I thought really would extend to six-player poker because even though in theory they don't give you these guarantees outside of two-player zero-sum games, in practice it still gives you a really strong strategy.
Now, there were a lot of complications that would come up with six player poker besides like the game theoretic aspect.
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