Noeline Blackwell

But there is at least a recognition that the current situation is appalling.

And for Barbara and her fellow therapists against harm, they see the actual harm that the legal system does when they require this.

And the other thing, David, is right now there is no...

actual entitlement to legal representation for the victim throughout a case as well so a victim is handing over their notes they're then going in just as a witness for the prosecution and and what is done is very much out of their control and and really there is a there's a long way to go but at least what's happening now is a step change towards a fairer system

The current one is entirely unfair to the victims of sexual offences.