Norman Finkelstein

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No, I would say that's a very high bar. You're saying they can swim. To even qualify.
So to even make it to plausible. That is not true.
Mr. Borelli, please don't teach me about the English language. So the declaration, I said, I said, it's the same concept as qualifying.
Please stop displaying your imbecility. Okay, I'm sorry if you think the declaration of the challenge is imbecility. Don't put on public display that you're a moron. At least have the self-possession to shut up. Did I read the case? I'm comfortable putting my display on camera if you're comfortable putting yours in books, okay? I read the case around four times.
I read all of the majority opinion, the declarations. I read Ahron Barak's declaration. Then why are you lying and saying plausible is a high standard? Because I said... Even reaching the benchmark of plausibility is a very high standard in the world. It's the equivalent of a regional player qualifying for an Olympics. It's still two steps removed. You may not be on the team.
and you may not get a medal, but to get qualified, which in this context is the equivalent of plausible, you must be doing something pretty horrible. And as it happens, Professor Morris... There was no genocide. That's what the court will rule. Remember what I just told you. I don't expect to be even around when the court reaches its final decision. Why? It'll take a long, long time. Two years.
No, I don't think it'll take two or three years.
But the point you're making... I'm saying that something horrible must be happening to even achieve... It is horrible. It's a war. It's true. They weren't rendering a ruling on a war. They were rendering a ruling on a genocide.
Professor Morris, here's another one. When the defense... Ridiculous. Yes, ridiculous. The American judge... He also doesn't determine policy. The American judge... You are holding the American judge to... Well, he was the president.
The American judge read several of the quotes. Look at the American Supreme Court today. They may support Trump. It shows you how worthy American judges are. Professor Mars, without going too far afield, if you heard a statement by the defense minister, the defense minister said... we are going to prevent any food, water, fuel, or electricity from entering Gaza. Did Israel do that?
No, I'm wondering. What he said isn't Israeli government policy. But we're talking about statements now, intent. How would you interpret that?
Take down Gaza is not a genocide.
Wait, you do know how to pronounce my name. Are you mispronouncing it intentionally?
I'm so touched by your solicitude for international law.
Unfortunately, 15 judges disagree.
Even though I agree, I've thought about it a lot, and I agree with Muin's analysis. I'm not really in the business of punditry. I'd rather look at the historical record where I feel more comfortable, and I feel on terra firma. So I'd like to just go through that. I agree and I disagree with Muin on the 1973 issue.
After the 1973 war, it was clear that Israel was surprised by what happened during the war. It took a big hit. The estimates are, I don't know what numbers you use, but I hear between 2,000 and 3,000 Israeli soldiers were killed during the 1970s. It was 2,500? Yeah, 27 number. Okay, so I got it right. I read different numbers. That's, you know, it's a very large number of Israelis who were killed.
There were moments at the beginning of the war where there was a fear that this might be it. No, no, there wasn't, there wasn't, there wasn't. This is nonsense.
I can't tell you if he was hysterical or not. No, he was. I wasn't in the same room with him. But I'm just saying, let's not bog down on that. The war is over, and when President Carter comes into power, Carter was an extremely smart guy, Jimmy Carter, extremely smart guy, and he was very fixed on details.
He was probably the most impressive of modern American presidents, in my opinion, by a wide margin. And he was determined to resolve the conflict. On the big scale, on the Arab-Israeli scale, on the Palestinian issue, he wouldn't go past what he called a Palestinian homeland.
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