Nosheen Iqbal

I mean, how much worse is it really for them?

And in the meantime, the Iranian regime can probably claim this as their victory, right?

Julian, thank you for your time.

That's it for today.

Thanks again to our senior international correspondent, Julian Forger.

And do check out our sister podcast, Politics Weekly, where they are discussing the social media ban for under-16s, as announced by the Prime Minister today.

Thanks for listening to this episode of The Latest.

Today in Focus, we'll be back with you as usual tomorrow morning, and The Latest will be back tomorrow night.

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The presenter was me, Noshi Nikval.

From The Guardian's Today In Focus, this is The Latest with me, Noshie Nickval.

Kieran Stacey, you're The Guardian's policy editor, and I don't want to make too many assumptions about our audience, but I think when a lot of people see the headline, John Healey resigns, they might then think, who?

But this is a very big deal.

Why?

Can you tell me more about the statement?

Because how big is the shortfall in the first instance between what Healy was asking for and what the government was able to negotiate?

I mean, they're always going to go at the top end.

And then what does that then mean for national security if there is that big gap and if your secretary of state of defence is resigning over the issue?

I guess you don't need to be a defence expert to know that defence and national security is very high on the agenda right now for most countries.