Nosheen Iqbal

And so given that and given this resignation, how damaging is it for the Prime Minister?

So he really put the boot in.

But were he to go, there's no easy fixes to this.

I mean, could anyone sort of bridge this gap between what the military wants, what the defence secretary says is needed and what the Treasury is willing to give up?

And in the meantime, Kieran, where does this leave John Healey, who appears to have made a very principled resignation, but what's his game?

Right.

Right.

So for all the people who are asking, who is he?

Potentially, he could be putting himself in the ring.

That's it for today.

My huge thanks again to Kieran Stacey, the Guardian's policy editor and host of our sister podcast, Politics Weekly.

Thanks for listening to this episode of The Latest.

Today in Focus, we'll be back with you as usual tomorrow morning, and The Latest will be back tomorrow night.

This episode was presented by me, Noshin Iqbal.

The producer was Jacob Liebenberg.

The senior producer is Ryan Ramgobin, and the lead producer was Zoe Hitch.

But look at where he is now.

Woo!

Down there, underwater, underneath the cornfields.

He's now 14 points underwater.