Olin Krutz

to 2 on Chicago Sports Radio 670.

This is a rivalry, and the city of Chicago, Green Bay, it needs to be a rivalry.

Could Matt LaFleur be a guy in Pittsburgh?

He's had some meltdowns this season, but yes, I agree with your overall sentiment.

He's been successful in that in an expanded playoff, he's able to get his team in there year after year.

I am curious as to how that turns out.

That shakes out.

That is one of those seismic-type things that could happen that would really affect this division.

NFC North could end up looking like the AFC North where, you know, they've got one coach left.

It's bad enough.

where friends of Matt LaFleur around the league who will remain nameless can't stand Ben Johnson because of the feelings and the treatment they know he has towards Matt LaFleur.

So the point that I'm telling you, this is me, I ain't giving you an opinion.

I'm telling you what I was told.

I think him saying he's not giving you an opinion is him letting you know this is sourced information that he is giving you, that people do not like Ben Johnson because they are riding with Matt LaFleur.

Well, yeah, I'm saying the Matt LaFleur camp, if you will.

So related to that,

is the fact that you've got to go back to who fired the first shot in this beef.

It was Ben Johnson, let's be honest.

Introductory press conference.

People say, keep your name out of my mouth.