Oliver Anthony (Christopher Lunsford)

Do you think that's... Because I'm not...

I'm not super well-versed about all this, so I'm probably dumb to even mention it.

But this guy who's been helping me with doing a documentary, he's been following me around since the very first show, August of 23.

His background was doing promotional videos for Boeing, like for on their new spacecraft to pitch it to whoever.

And so we touched base a little bit on Boeing.

And of course, they're having a lot of problems now, it sounds like.

And he was comparing that with SpaceX.

I think it's exactly what we touched on with that thought process of that sort of dehumanization within companies.

I think that's what ultimately causes maybe – I don't know if there's a connection there or not, but it seems like Boeing is a very – would be more of that.

They don't have that tornado.

They're very like – he was telling me even just with his protocols and some of the people he worked with, everything's just very –

Lightly touch everything.

Don't touch anything too hard.

Yeah, because they don't believe – there's a lack of leadership and if they don't believe in –

If they don't believe in that leadership, then why the hell would they be motivated?

I mean, I remember a while back watching Jocko Wilnick talk about that when he was in leadership, when he was leading his guys.

I think he mentions it in his book.

It's probably where I remember seeing it, one of his books.

And he talks about like –

how important it was for the people under him in rank to believe in what he was, the actions he was giving them, even if he necessarily didn't agree with him himself.