Owen Doyle

And if refs make mistakes, fine, they take it on the chin and they do.

And the system is very robust.

And that's why people like Johan van Graan can be measured about it.

I mean, I was impressed with the way he dealt with it.

But behind the scenes, he's quite likely to be saying something else.

That's fine, too, because he should be livid about it, quite frankly.

But they do the system whereby they send in video clips with questions to the referee and to the referee manager of that tournament, in case of a rugby show or a judge.

And I can tell you, they get back very honest answers.

There's very little evasion in those answers.

I think that I said the same as he said the other day.

And that is frustrating.

And I mean, you know, we should be sidetracked a little bit.

I mean, look, Leinster's record is unbelievably good.

I mean, they've lost finals in the last second.

They've lost finals by a point.

And obviously we want to see that overturned.

But does that suddenly make the Leinster set up terrible?

It's a very high bar.

They have to jump every time at the moment.

It's bound to be an English referee.