Owen O'Kane

I started to have panic attacks.

I think it was from grief.

Yeah.

And then I started to have crippling anxiety to the point where I was struggling to work.

Honestly, Owen, I have to say, I actually feel quite emotional listening to you today.

Honestly, I think that's going to be one of my favorite episodes.

All of that right after this.

Yeah, it's interesting, isn't it?

It's sort of like phones.

I think COVID had a huge effect on everybody.

I know that, you know, as we look at the news, the situation of war, the worry about fuel, there's so much, you know, the state of the planet, there's so much.

It does feel like sometimes we are functioning at a very high level of anxiety.

I've definitely seen it in, like you say, in younger people and older people.

And I thought it was just mental.

menopausal me.

But it really, really has massively affected everybody.

What can we do, Owen, when anxiety is very much in the driving seat?

Because this is the wonderful thing about you and the work you do and your fantastic book.

is teaching us ways to cope with that and perhaps change that message for ourselves.

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