Owen Rask

So when you obviously went into the episode, it was kind of like it was a coaching session.

What jumped out at you?

Yeah.

It sounds like that a lot of it's kind of like you've got the perspective.

You get to look from the outside into what's going on in his financial life and his kind of behavioral finance.

Yes.

When...

we think about for people that haven't been through like money coaching and that sort of process before, what is it actually like?

Like what actually happens?

Yeah, yeah.

So you're trying to get people a bit excited for what's to come and get them to think creatively.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's it's, it's really interesting.

It's almost like steps that we could all take, but the coach element is really important because it nudges you towards the things that are important and

Yes.

When people do rock up though, like say Christian even, he obviously thinks like if I lose four kilos, he buys the light.

Maybe that's his short-term goal.

Yes.

Do people normally rock up to coaching with goals or does a coach work with them?