Oz Veloshian

That is incredibly important.

No one is talking to the Houthis.

Except other hoodies.

It's exactly your point.

It's exactly your point.

It's a problem.

Let's broaden this for a moment because there's that sort of information asymmetry.

And I'm struck in the past month or so of – we live in a world where we talk about just the sheer proliferation tsunami of information and data.

and yet in these insert areas of the world right Turkmenistan North Korea Iran to a large degree some aspects of Yemen we have remarkable little visibility and the capacity of governments clearly to control that information outflow and I suppose information inflow as well seems remarkably high I mean not even including China obviously where

There it's more of information as control more than it is actually controlled information.

But I mean I wonder if you've thought about this or what does this portend?

Are these the kind of the rule – the exceptions to the rules or are these going to be the new rules and the more open is going to be the exception?

Look, I don't think the United States is gonna become Turkmenistan, but obviously when Trump is meeting with Xi Jinping and talking with him over the last year, Trump's top priority in those bilateral conversations has been the acquisition of TikTok before the midterm elections.

Look, they allowed TikTok to keep running in defiance of a piece of legislation as ruled by Congress, which has the right to do that.

So they were ignoring law.

And China eventually allowed the sale to politically sanitized, acceptable people.

It was not feasible that that sale was gonna go to someone that was a political opponent of Trump in the United States.

Why not?

In an open media environment where your ostensible concern is that you don't want the Chinese surveilling your data, it just needs to be an American company.

That was never what was gonna happen.