Pablo Torre

And so Brandon Jovanovic simply decided to keep pushing through.

I got to say at this point in the story, I know you said you're not a method Ahab.

That's it.

But allow me to observe that we were talking about obsession and ambition and the self-destruction.

Oh, yeah.

And you're...

You're pushing through literally to play the character who pushes through at all costs.

But in all sincerity, I'm now reading this quote from the editor-in-chief of Opera Wire, David Salazar.

Quote, Brandon Jovanovic is a force of nature.

I loved his Ahab, a man you aren't exactly supposed to love.

Oh, right.

And that, I think, is a fantastic scouting report on you.

Yeah.

He made me love Ahab.

That's right.

And how are you doing now?

I mean, look, I believe you are the first cater waiter to go from cater waitering to the stage at the Met Opera, but certainly this added level of like, who has ever done anything quite like your life?

That's it.

And who has better resembled in a quite real way this theme of opera, which is...

profound strength, but also like legitimate vulnerability.