Pastor Cal

And what we do often is we'll contact the parents or siblings.

I said, who can I call?

They say, well, call my mom.

And I talked to her mom.

While I was on the phone, I was like, wow, you know, she's like a replica of her daughter.

And so I said, are you single?

Or something to that effect.

And she said, yeah.

I said, okay, fine.

So Jane said, well, she ought to be on the... I said, okay, yeah, yeah.

We joked about it.

But when we got back to the war room, we found out that, you know, wait a minute, maybe we should consider her.

because her qualifications and who she was as a person, she was just so stellar.

She was just such a stellar person that we had to at least consider it.

And lo and behold, we found a match for her.

And so that's how that came about.

But it was a little nerve wracking, but they have such a great relationship, a mother and daughter relationship.

They talk so openly and so honestly about everything that I believe that not only

hasn't been good for their marriages, but I think it's also good for people to see a mother and daughter talk that openly and that honestly.

And so that's been a real benefit.