Pastor Cal

But I think that what happens, and I call it almost like the merit of first sight.

I don't know if it's a curse or what, but it's almost like sometimes when people get on the show, if they succeed...

it's because they have really, it's almost like they have separated themselves from the show.

They've separated themselves from the TD mindset and they've really connected to marriage.

I talked about Vinny and Brianna.

where they are married and they see themselves as married.

They're not trying to be TV stars.

They're trying to be married.

Of course, they use social media, et cetera, et cetera.

But their focus is marriage.

And I think that's what happens quite often.

And I can say this sometimes with gentlemen, also with the guys.

I think that once they get on TV and they... I'm just going to go out on a limb here.

I think they get caught up into thinking that they can get better now because they have all this exposure and all this fame.

You know?

So now I can go and I can find something better, you know, because now people know me.

But what they don't realize is that, dude, your entire marriage is on TV.

People see.

We saw everything.

We see the negatives.