Pastor Cal

I love it.

I love it.

A conversation I had with the CEO of the production company, Chris Colan, who's just a great guy.

And when they had approached me about it, it wasn't something that I was looking for because I never, TV is not something that I ever even was thinking about ever doing.

But when I talked to Chris about it, I asked him, I said, okay, are you guys serious about marriage?

are you serious about making marriages work?

Or is this just some sensational thing?

Because if it is, I didn't want to be a part of it.

But Chris told me at that point, he said, look, man, I've been married for 13 years.

I want this to be something where people can learn and they can come away and say, wow, thank you for that.

And we believe you can be a part of it.

And I said, okay, great.

Well, then let's do it.

And I thought it would last for maybe one season or maybe two.

Yeah.

So what drew me into it is that it's real.

Even though we've been accused of fabricating and prepping people, what you see is real.

I mean, the decisions they make, the craziness is, you know, this is all real stuff.

So, I love to see the evolution of people.

I love to see people, the aha moments where the lights come on.