Pastor Dave Hodges

So anytime there's extra cash, you know, I look for things in the community that we can support.

Yeah.

For me, the perspective is that whether they know it or not, they are having a religious experience.

So when I talk about how the mushrooms work, they affect the border between this world and the next.

And anything they're doing to get closer to the soul is a religious experience from my perspective.

And whether or not they understand that that's what they're doing, as they do more, eventually they will understand.

They end up converting themselves.

there's definitely people who don't believe that this should be a religion.

And there's, there's people that think that we're just making tons of money and that this is just, you know, a way to get wealthy.

And then there's the, the ones whose lives we've changed and people that have got past trauma that 10 years of therapy couldn't touch.

And, and,

People that can answer questions of why they're here and what they're supposed to do.

To me, these are some of the most important questions anybody could have answered from themselves.