Pat Clifton

For each club and respective clubhouses and stuff.

At the end of the day, it's a business and that's what they're looking for.

But you need someone to be like...

As a footy club, for the fans, what is going to get us wins?

What's not going to bring in the most money for our section of the club?

One of the greatest of all time.

Yeah.

But do you reckon it's good that someone who's been there when the club's thriving would somehow bring some middle ground and has lived through, I guess, the success of Dragons?

Rather than an outsider who's, you know, doesn't know, obviously he's a professional, he knows what he's doing, but maybe is it about bringing back some culture into the club to a degree?

Pat, this is the worst our club's ever been.

I think it's different for Dragons too, because Manly, it was clearly a game plan that they were struggling with.

They weren't going through the middle.

They were trying to go around on the edges.

And Forens changed that up, and they have so many attacking players to create something.

But with Dragons, we were just speaking before, they've got the most run meters for their forwards, which is crazy.

Unbelievable.

It's like they're getting themselves in positions and it's just the creativity that hasn't been created.

Whereas with Manly, they just weren't even getting into the positions to do it.

If that makes sense.

You know, whereas they've had the dragons have had the chances and it's been proven for seven weeks that they can't create opportunity.