Pat LaLama

And the way they were able to do the phone calls, Deborah, is they got a third party to help put them together. Anyway, that's a that's also another long description of how this happened. But let me just tell you.

Absolutely the best. But what happened was you think now they're both arrested for murder. Right. And if she is innocent, then you wouldn't think she would keep this up. But here they are in jail professing their undying love and lust for each other.

Absolutely the best. But what happened was you think now they're both arrested for murder. Right. And if she is innocent, then you wouldn't think she would keep this up. But here they are in jail professing their undying love and lust for each other.

Oh my gosh, you haven't heard that. We can't play you the half of it. We can't redo the half of it. We can't play you. We can't show you. I mean, you'd have to go and sit in the trial every day like I did to see your own jaw drop every day listening to the undeniable passion these two had for each other.

Oh my gosh, you haven't heard that. We can't play you the half of it. We can't redo the half of it. We can't play you. We can't show you. I mean, you'd have to go and sit in the trial every day like I did to see your own jaw drop every day listening to the undeniable passion these two had for each other.

You're so gorgeous, baby. You just like me a little bit. Oh my God, I love you so much. Honestly, I've had quite a few relationships. This is different. This is supercharged.

You're so gorgeous, baby. You just like me a little bit. Oh my God, I love you so much. Honestly, I've had quite a few relationships. This is different. This is supercharged.

He's telling her, be strong, baby. I love you so much.

He's telling her, be strong, baby. I love you so much.

they're each other's home. Nobody can take that away. And that's the lustful edge of it. But what you'll find is that in this case, they also, there are recordings of them actually talking about evidence. And Deborah, that is what gave the prosecution a lot of strength because they are discussing evidence and they are expressing concern for some of the evidence.

they're each other's home. Nobody can take that away. And that's the lustful edge of it. But what you'll find is that in this case, they also, there are recordings of them actually talking about evidence. And Deborah, that is what gave the prosecution a lot of strength because they are discussing evidence and they are expressing concern for some of the evidence.

So the prosecution is arguing, well, then how is it that she didn't know anything?

So the prosecution is arguing, well, then how is it that she didn't know anything?

This is when they first got to jail. But over time, you hear in the jail what they call the overhears, where the cops are monitoring their conversations, where they really do get concerned about. about certain things. For example, how Robert's blood got into the home. And there are lies about that. So the cops are able to establish some inconsistencies and some lies because think about it.

This is when they first got to jail. But over time, you hear in the jail what they call the overhears, where the cops are monitoring their conversations, where they really do get concerned about. about certain things. For example, how Robert's blood got into the home. And there are lies about that. So the cops are able to establish some inconsistencies and some lies because think about it.

They're so embroiled in their lust for each other that they're not being very smart, right? So they give themselves away a lot in those conversations. Deborah, here's the important thing. The important point for the prosecution in trying to prove that she was the mastermind

They're so embroiled in their lust for each other that they're not being very smart, right? So they give themselves away a lot in those conversations. Deborah, here's the important thing. The important point for the prosecution in trying to prove that she was the mastermind

is that they have a plethora of compelling, irrefutable evidence of her going to Fabio's many memorials and services, playing the grieving widow, and then going home and sending Robert home. The most salacious nude photographs and messages you can imagine.

is that they have a plethora of compelling, irrefutable evidence of her going to Fabio's many memorials and services, playing the grieving widow, and then going home and sending Robert home. The most salacious nude photographs and messages you can imagine.

The problem for the defense is they can't refute it because it's right there in the technology, which is what makes this such a great circumstantial case.