Pat LaLama

The problem for the defense is they can't refute it because it's right there in the technology, which is what makes this such a great circumstantial case.

Oh my gosh, Deborah, you just hit it on the head. Let me tell you, if I were speaking to, let's say, some young juvenile offenders, what I would say to them back then was, oh, you're going to spend the rest of your life in prison. What I say now is, don't do it. There's a camera. Somewhere there is a record.

Oh my gosh, Deborah, you just hit it on the head. Let me tell you, if I were speaking to, let's say, some young juvenile offenders, what I would say to them back then was, oh, you're going to spend the rest of your life in prison. What I say now is, don't do it. There's a camera. Somewhere there is a record.

And this trial, the prosecution laid out one of the most intricate and fascinating timelines using text messages, encrypted app indications, cell towers, surveillance footage. And when I sat, I've been covering this forever. I feel like I know every detail, right? But you still have to keep yourself objective.

And this trial, the prosecution laid out one of the most intricate and fascinating timelines using text messages, encrypted app indications, cell towers, surveillance footage. And when I sat, I've been covering this forever. I feel like I know every detail, right? But you still have to keep yourself objective.

But when I saw that timeline of the day of the murder and the exchanges between Monica and Robert, and they do this beautiful timeline, it makes it so clear how She placed herself, he placed himself in places and times and communications that made it seemingly clear that she was definitely involved.

But when I saw that timeline of the day of the murder and the exchanges between Monica and Robert, and they do this beautiful timeline, it makes it so clear how She placed herself, he placed himself in places and times and communications that made it seemingly clear that she was definitely involved.

Yes, absolutely. So just speaking of only the day of murder, right? They start out in this timeline of showing you cell phone usage where she starts calling him early in the morning. And then you'll see the graph go higher, lower in terms of their communications. It stops when they're not communicating and they're at a location where they meet before the murder.

Yes, absolutely. So just speaking of only the day of murder, right? They start out in this timeline of showing you cell phone usage where she starts calling him early in the morning. And then you'll see the graph go higher, lower in terms of their communications. It stops when they're not communicating and they're at a location where they meet before the murder.

And then there's a flurry of activity. Deborah, I am not doing justice to what this timeline was able to reveal for the jury of what happened the day of the murder and they placed them at the Target store where she's basically hiding out while he goes to do the murder. I can't, there's so much detail.

And then there's a flurry of activity. Deborah, I am not doing justice to what this timeline was able to reveal for the jury of what happened the day of the murder and they placed them at the Target store where she's basically hiding out while he goes to do the murder. I can't, there's so much detail.

Trust me when I tell you this timeline made it, it parted the clouds for me and I believe for the jury. in terms of how she, alleged by the prosecution, manipulated the whole day, gave him all the instructions, told him, told him where everyone in the family was going to be that day, sent him her husband's itinerary, sent him the code to the DVR surveillance video.

Trust me when I tell you this timeline made it, it parted the clouds for me and I believe for the jury. in terms of how she, alleged by the prosecution, manipulated the whole day, gave him all the instructions, told him, told him where everyone in the family was going to be that day, sent him her husband's itinerary, sent him the code to the DVR surveillance video.

They have technological evidence that she was watching her home video DVR system as they were there doing the murder she gave him all this information so that he would know when the window of opportunity was yeah now of course the defense disputed that timeline in court yes they did they tried to find glitches in the timeline and and listen There is no smoking gun.

They have technological evidence that she was watching her home video DVR system as they were there doing the murder she gave him all this information so that he would know when the window of opportunity was yeah now of course the defense disputed that timeline in court yes they did they tried to find glitches in the timeline and and listen There is no smoking gun.

There is no text message that says, all right, go get him. Okay, honey, we'll be together forever. Now go slice them up, right? There's nothing, nothing. Okay, and the other thing that the jury has to wonder, as I do, is why is this man, Robert Baker, dying on this hill?

There is no text message that says, all right, go get him. Okay, honey, we'll be together forever. Now go slice them up, right? There's nothing, nothing. Okay, and the other thing that the jury has to wonder, as I do, is why is this man, Robert Baker, dying on this hill?

for her he gets nothing he's gonna he'll never see the light of day what is motivating him to say she had nothing to do with it so those are two very strong things but remember in a circumstantial case when the pieces all fit together they can be airtight yeah and the defense can try all they will to undo these puzzles but it's hard to break them open they fit together perfectly

for her he gets nothing he's gonna he'll never see the light of day what is motivating him to say she had nothing to do with it so those are two very strong things but remember in a circumstantial case when the pieces all fit together they can be airtight yeah and the defense can try all they will to undo these puzzles but it's hard to break them open they fit together perfectly

The prosecution alleged that Monica devised the timeline so that her 16-year-old daughter would come home to find her dad dead. Now, the defense disputes that, and they say, no, no, it just happened that way, you know, because Monica didn't know anything about it.