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Pat LaLama

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108 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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20/20
The After Show: Sex, Knives and Videotape

There is no text message that says, all right, go get him. Okay, honey, we'll be together forever. Now go slice them up, right? There's nothing, nothing. Okay, and the other thing that the jury has to wonder, as I do, is why is this man, Robert Baker, dying on this hill?

20/20
The After Show: Sex, Knives and Videotape

There is no text message that says, all right, go get him. Okay, honey, we'll be together forever. Now go slice them up, right? There's nothing, nothing. Okay, and the other thing that the jury has to wonder, as I do, is why is this man, Robert Baker, dying on this hill?

20/20
The After Show: Sex, Knives and Videotape

for her he gets nothing he's gonna he'll never see the light of day what is motivating him to say she had nothing to do with it so those are two very strong things but remember in a circumstantial case when the pieces all fit together they can be airtight yeah and the defense can try all they will to undo these puzzles but it's hard to break them open they fit together perfectly

20/20
The After Show: Sex, Knives and Videotape

for her he gets nothing he's gonna he'll never see the light of day what is motivating him to say she had nothing to do with it so those are two very strong things but remember in a circumstantial case when the pieces all fit together they can be airtight yeah and the defense can try all they will to undo these puzzles but it's hard to break them open they fit together perfectly

20/20
The After Show: Sex, Knives and Videotape

The prosecution alleged that Monica devised the timeline so that her 16-year-old daughter would come home to find her dad dead. Now, the defense disputes that, and they say, no, no, it just happened that way, you know, because Monica didn't know anything about it.

20/20
The After Show: Sex, Knives and Videotape

The prosecution alleged that Monica devised the timeline so that her 16-year-old daughter would come home to find her dad dead. Now, the defense disputes that, and they say, no, no, it just happened that way, you know, because Monica didn't know anything about it.

20/20
The After Show: Sex, Knives and Videotape

But the fact is there is some evidence that Monica did plan everything and even detoured her daughter Isabella for a while to go pick up some glasses that she needed, just out of the blue. But still, Isabella got home in time to find her dad. OK, now, Robert Baker is a convicted sex offender, sodomized a 14 year old girl. Excuse me for the harsh description, but it's true.

20/20
The After Show: Sex, Knives and Videotape

But the fact is there is some evidence that Monica did plan everything and even detoured her daughter Isabella for a while to go pick up some glasses that she needed, just out of the blue. But still, Isabella got home in time to find her dad. OK, now, Robert Baker is a convicted sex offender, sodomized a 14 year old girl. Excuse me for the harsh description, but it's true.

20/20
The After Show: Sex, Knives and Videotape

And it came out in the case. And yet Monica gave him the codes to her home surveillance footage, right? And pin numbers and everything he needed with two teenage daughters in the home, okay? Also, after the murder, there are text exchanges between Monica and her daughters where she is downright emotionless and callous because Isabella is saying, mom, I'm afraid to be home alone in this house.

20/20
The After Show: Sex, Knives and Videotape

And it came out in the case. And yet Monica gave him the codes to her home surveillance footage, right? And pin numbers and everything he needed with two teenage daughters in the home, okay? Also, after the murder, there are text exchanges between Monica and her daughters where she is downright emotionless and callous because Isabella is saying, mom, I'm afraid to be home alone in this house.

20/20
The After Show: Sex, Knives and Videotape

Please come home. And Monica's responding like, okay. I'm at a comedy club. And what are you guys, a cop? You know, basically. Yeah, absolutely. I'm talking, Deborah. I'm talking days and weeks after this young girl, Isabella, finds her daddy dead. And get this. I got one. I can't I can't keep this from you. On one of the text exchanges.

20/20
The After Show: Sex, Knives and Videotape

Please come home. And Monica's responding like, okay. I'm at a comedy club. And what are you guys, a cop? You know, basically. Yeah, absolutely. I'm talking, Deborah. I'm talking days and weeks after this young girl, Isabella, finds her daddy dead. And get this. I got one. I can't I can't keep this from you. On one of the text exchanges.

20/20
The After Show: Sex, Knives and Videotape

Remember, Monica is out with Robert through all of this until all hours of the morning, sometimes not even coming home. Isabella is just pleading with her mother to come home, right? And she goes, I'm alive. I'm a human being. You guys aren't even paying attention. I'm so scared to be here by myself. And then she says, Mom, I'm going to make that therapist appointment tomorrow. Deborah, get this.

20/20
The After Show: Sex, Knives and Videotape

Remember, Monica is out with Robert through all of this until all hours of the morning, sometimes not even coming home. Isabella is just pleading with her mother to come home, right? And she goes, I'm alive. I'm a human being. You guys aren't even paying attention. I'm so scared to be here by myself. And then she says, Mom, I'm going to make that therapist appointment tomorrow. Deborah, get this.

20/20
The After Show: Sex, Knives and Videotape

You know what Monica responds? Okay. Okay, fine. I'm coming home. I'm so disappointed. I'm so disappointed, she says.

20/20
The After Show: Sex, Knives and Videotape

You know what Monica responds? Okay. Okay, fine. I'm coming home. I'm so disappointed. I'm so disappointed, she says.

20/20
The After Show: Sex, Knives and Videotape

Debra, you're a parent. I'm a step parent. And I love the kids like they were my own. To me, this is what I mean when I say that, you know, jokingly, I say everybody wants to kill their spouse now and then. Right. I say that jokingly. So don't take that as a comment. But when you hear. But there's truth to that. Exactly.

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The After Show: Sex, Knives and Videotape

Debra, you're a parent. I'm a step parent. And I love the kids like they were my own. To me, this is what I mean when I say that, you know, jokingly, I say everybody wants to kill their spouse now and then. Right. I say that jokingly. So don't take that as a comment. But when you hear. But there's truth to that. Exactly.

20/20
The After Show: Sex, Knives and Videotape

When you hear these young ladies and what their mother had absolutely no regard for their emotional well-being, to me, I said to myself, the jury's going to hate this more than the murder. Now, of course, I'm being slightly facetious because murder is murder, of course. But these girls, Deborah, they don't want to believe their mother is capable of this. And you can understand that.

20/20
The After Show: Sex, Knives and Videotape

When you hear these young ladies and what their mother had absolutely no regard for their emotional well-being, to me, I said to myself, the jury's going to hate this more than the murder. Now, of course, I'm being slightly facetious because murder is murder, of course. But these girls, Deborah, they don't want to believe their mother is capable of this. And you can understand that.