Pat LaLama

No, this is in my, think about, well, I've covered hundreds of trials, right, over all these decades, and this is in my top five. This is in my top five because, Deborah, The reason why I made criminal justice the focus of my career, like you, I've covered everything you can throw at me, right? But criminal justice, particularly when it comes to murder, I'm not interested in the murder.

No, this is in my, think about, well, I've covered hundreds of trials, right, over all these decades, and this is in my top five. This is in my top five because, Deborah, The reason why I made criminal justice the focus of my career, like you, I've covered everything you can throw at me, right? But criminal justice, particularly when it comes to murder, I'm not interested in the murder.

I'm interested in what happened in a person's life that could make them go off the rails like this. to put yourself above every living thing, to be able to construct and craft such a heinous murder of someone that you had two children with.

I'm interested in what happened in a person's life that could make them go off the rails like this. to put yourself above every living thing, to be able to construct and craft such a heinous murder of someone that you had two children with.

I'll put it this way. The prosecution, the detectives even said on the stand, horrible as it may be, we believe that she set it up this way so that someone else besides her would have to be the one the public sees as having found the dead person. That's what the prosecution's trying to say. She put that on someone else to deal with so that she didn't have to be in the spotlight.

I'll put it this way. The prosecution, the detectives even said on the stand, horrible as it may be, we believe that she set it up this way so that someone else besides her would have to be the one the public sees as having found the dead person. That's what the prosecution's trying to say. She put that on someone else to deal with so that she didn't have to be in the spotlight.

That's what the prosecution believes. The defense said to the detectives, you can't possibly believe Monica would do

That's what the prosecution believes. The defense said to the detectives, you can't possibly believe Monica would do

such a thing and the detective came back and said well sad as it is to say yes we believe that she constructed it so her own daughter would find it and her own daughter would be the one that would have to carry that weight isabella came home one minute deborah one minute after the the killers left the house

such a thing and the detective came back and said well sad as it is to say yes we believe that she constructed it so her own daughter would find it and her own daughter would be the one that would have to carry that weight isabella came home one minute deborah one minute after the the killers left the house

And in fact, Robert Baker made a comment to his accomplice, oh, expletive, one of the daughters is coming home.

And in fact, Robert Baker made a comment to his accomplice, oh, expletive, one of the daughters is coming home.

Chris Austin was a baby when Robert Baker met him. Chris Austin's dad is Robert Baker's best friend. Chris Austin is a pretty decent guy, Deborah. I'm going to tell you, you might find it hard. How can Pat say that when he's going to prison for 16 to life for for murder. But I will tell you this. You know what Chris Austin did for a living? He mentored juvenile offenders.

Chris Austin was a baby when Robert Baker met him. Chris Austin's dad is Robert Baker's best friend. Chris Austin is a pretty decent guy, Deborah. I'm going to tell you, you might find it hard. How can Pat say that when he's going to prison for 16 to life for for murder. But I will tell you this. You know what Chris Austin did for a living? He mentored juvenile offenders.

Never been in trouble himself. He was a mentor to them. He kept them on the straight and narrow. If they got in trouble, he tried to put them back on track. He delivered food to people who were mentally challenged. He has a wife and a baby whom he worships and adores. Now, look, I'm a law and order kind of girl. You're responsible for the actions that you take in your own life.

Never been in trouble himself. He was a mentor to them. He kept them on the straight and narrow. If they got in trouble, he tried to put them back on track. He delivered food to people who were mentally challenged. He has a wife and a baby whom he worships and adores. Now, look, I'm a law and order kind of girl. You're responsible for the actions that you take in your own life.

However, I would say that there are mitigating circumstances in this because The prosecution brought out the way in which Robert coerced him to get involved, but only as a lookout. His role was just to be a lookout. That's what Chris Austin thought he was going to be doing. You may not know this. The first murder attempt was the night before.

However, I would say that there are mitigating circumstances in this because The prosecution brought out the way in which Robert coerced him to get involved, but only as a lookout. His role was just to be a lookout. That's what Chris Austin thought he was going to be doing. You may not know this. The first murder attempt was the night before.

where the prosecution alleges that Monica gave Robert Baker the name of a Chinese restaurant where Fabio was going to pick up food at a Chinese restaurant. And they went to that scene and he handed Chris Austin the knife and said, you go do it. How's that for a spineless person? Right.

where the prosecution alleges that Monica gave Robert Baker the name of a Chinese restaurant where Fabio was going to pick up food at a Chinese restaurant. And they went to that scene and he handed Chris Austin the knife and said, you go do it. How's that for a spineless person? Right.