Patrick Bet-David

And did they see something in you?

Did they say, this guy's got what it takes?

We like him?

What was the recruiting?

So when you got recruited, what year is it, 74, 70?

75.

Okay, so 75 you get recruited.

How old were you at 75?

I was mid-20s.

Mid-20s, so let's say 25 years old and 75.

How did you go from a rookie guy coming on board to 78 going to Sonny's place?

You rode up with bikes and motorcycles.

You hit up to him.

And then all of a sudden to be the number two guy, conciliary, president of Ventura County.

How does that happen?

How did you maneuver your way up to that kind of power?

Not what I hear about you.

They tell me you're the strategic, you're the brains, you were the guy that was extremely intentional, strategic.

You know, like, you know, when you think about the original mobsters, you think about what Ben Siegel did, what Frank Costello, who was a networker, great at going and creating the relationship.

You know, you have Lucky, who was more the visionary, what he saw he can do.