Patrick Lee

The true conversation that was happening was like, everybody sub that tier was fucking pissed. We were like, why them? Like, they don't push the bounds creatively. At least at that point, that wasn't there. It was, you know, videos that are still memed today. But like, it was stuff that, you know, we're like, oh, really? Like, that's your idea?

The true conversation that was happening was like, everybody sub that tier was fucking pissed. We were like, why them? Like, they don't push the bounds creatively. At least at that point, that wasn't there. It was, you know, videos that are still memed today. But like, it was stuff that, you know, we're like, oh, really? Like, that's your idea?

Like the idea that some other smaller binder had six months ago with like a slightly different twist. Yeah. I think everybody was just pissed. We were like, you know, the immediate aftermath was like the fact that that meeting even took place. It just felt like this weird succession style summit.

Like the idea that some other smaller binder had six months ago with like a slightly different twist. Yeah. I think everybody was just pissed. We were like, you know, the immediate aftermath was like the fact that that meeting even took place. It just felt like this weird succession style summit.

Like, you know, it's like the evil geniuses getting together and like, you know, controlling as Illuminati. It just felt weird. And we were just kind of like, yeah, this is the ecosystem that we live in where, you know, everybody else who's like getting together and throwing vine parties and, My entire group of friends in LA at one point was, like, 25 people deep. Everybody was a Viner.

Like, you know, it's like the evil geniuses getting together and like, you know, controlling as Illuminati. It just felt weird. And we were just kind of like, yeah, this is the ecosystem that we live in where, you know, everybody else who's like getting together and throwing vine parties and, My entire group of friends in LA at one point was, like, 25 people deep. Everybody was a Viner.

And, like, it was just, like, this is the community you're ignoring versus those people who, like, talk shit on each other left and right and have beef in the comment sections. Like, come on. So yeah, I think it was just disappointment and frustration from a lot of people after that meeting took place.

And, like, it was just, like, this is the community you're ignoring versus those people who, like, talk shit on each other left and right and have beef in the comment sections. Like, come on. So yeah, I think it was just disappointment and frustration from a lot of people after that meeting took place.

Jason Topp, the GM, left. We had an interim GM for a moment and then we brought in the last person who was GM, this woman named Hannah. And I remember we did...

Jason Topp, the GM, left. We had an interim GM for a moment and then we brought in the last person who was GM, this woman named Hannah. And I remember we did...

this, like, off-site, and part of it was some stupid exercise where it was, like, you write down your fears about the product, and then, like, you know, we're going to put them up on the wall, and then, like, you know, we'll let them go, whatever. I don't think I even did it, honestly, but a friend of mine, what she wrote was, like, it's too late. Like, you blew it, basically.

this, like, off-site, and part of it was some stupid exercise where it was, like, you write down your fears about the product, and then, like, you know, we're going to put them up on the wall, and then, like, you know, we'll let them go, whatever. I don't think I even did it, honestly, but a friend of mine, what she wrote was, like, it's too late. Like, you blew it, basically.

That's what happened. That's the most Silicon Valley thing I've ever heard of, like, everyone write down your fears. I know. It's interesting because I don't think she was from Silicon Valley. I think she was from New York, but that's the thing that we don't do here.

That's what happened. That's the most Silicon Valley thing I've ever heard of, like, everyone write down your fears. I know. It's interesting because I don't think she was from Silicon Valley. I think she was from New York, but that's the thing that we don't do here.

Even today, culturally, there's a very big difference between New York tech and California tech, and this is one of those things that I would categorize as California bullshit.

Even today, culturally, there's a very big difference between New York tech and California tech, and this is one of those things that I would categorize as California bullshit.

Oh, big time. I still have the email because it was so insane. So I knew something was happening. I assumed that they were going to do layoffs, actually. I didn't assume they were going to shut it down. I assumed that there was going to be a pretty big layoff, and then maybe they would, like, fold it into Twitter or something like that.

Oh, big time. I still have the email because it was so insane. So I knew something was happening. I assumed that they were going to do layoffs, actually. I didn't assume they were going to shut it down. I assumed that there was going to be a pretty big layoff, and then maybe they would, like, fold it into Twitter or something like that.

And it was to the degree that, like, I was pretty confident it was going to happen. I was already, like, I was planning to leave. I was, like, ready to... I was already, like, halfway out the door. And it's funny, like, literally the night before they did, um...

And it was to the degree that, like, I was pretty confident it was going to happen. I was already, like, I was planning to leave. I was, like, ready to... I was already, like, halfway out the door. And it's funny, like, literally the night before they did, um...