Patrick Shaw

So that's one of my favorites.

And then four disciplines of execution.

Really represents what rapid funnel is all about.

So I'd say those two books are meaningful in this conversation.

Lots of them.

I do love Jeff Bezos just because, you know, I was reading his his annual book.

stock reports or whatever you call them.

And it's just, it's all value.

It's just like creates so much overwhelming value that I think so many of those other things like churn tend to work themselves out.

You want to get better at them?

Absolutely.

But, but if you can just figure out how to create overwhelming value to the individual user, then, um, then, then the gates are open.

It's traction.

I mean, we live in Google Docs and all that.

Eight at least.

I've got three kids and they are all rocking.

I've been married 20 some years.

I am 50 years old.

Oh, to relax a little and maybe go and take two or three years before I jump in the fire and

You know, patience and focus will allow you to achieve all that you want without getting too worked up over it.