Patrick Sullivan

we kind of felt like, is this investigative journalism?

Is this just gonna be a hit piece on big food?

And Ashley and I felt like we wanted to bring some form of inspiration to Americans.

We felt like there was a number of like, here's why it's bad, but we wanted to show that it can be fixed, that we as communities around America can work together from producers to markets to consumers

to really fix the problem from the ground up.

And before we move from Amelia's, when you go there, be sure to get the burger.

The burger is using Arizona grass-raised beef.

And they mix in a little bit of bacon to it.

And the way that they make it is just absolutely fantastic.

And the fries are fried in tallow.

Their better burger is absolutely fantastic.

We legit eat there probably once to three times a week.

We just had breakfast there yesterday.

Oh, gosh, they do.

Yeah.

They do.

Okay, so when we were doing pre-production and figuring out, like, who are the characters that we want to tell this story, I remember...

scrolling, trying to go to sleep and coming across your testimony, Alex, in the Senate in, I think, November, December 2024.

And it's you on fire for like ten minutes

Spitting fire, maybe as the kids would say.