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Pattie Gonia

👤 Speaker
311 total appearances

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The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Drag Queen Pattie Gonia: Nature Isn’t Binary, and Neither Are We

Realize that who I am today is not who I was yesterday and what a gift we can give ourselves of that reinvention I think that's something that queerness has to offer all of us.

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Drag Queen Pattie Gonia: Nature Isn’t Binary, and Neither Are We

I mean, how has that been for you transitioning?

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Drag Queen Pattie Gonia: Nature Isn’t Binary, and Neither Are We

It's so much more fun over here.

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Drag Queen Pattie Gonia: Nature Isn’t Binary, and Neither Are We

And it makes me think about how interconnected all of the conversation around queerness and nature, trans people is to this moment in politic.

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Drag Queen Pattie Gonia: Nature Isn’t Binary, and Neither Are We

Because just like you said, trans people to me represent a freedom in self, an acceptance of self that we see try to be so controlled on the political right or in the fascist movement when really truly what that is, why that hate exists is because there's so much in themselves that they're not allowing themselves to be.

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Drag Queen Pattie Gonia: Nature Isn’t Binary, and Neither Are We

And what I hate is that something like Byron Gnome happens because I want them to feel that freedom to be able to dress how they want, to wear that breastplate, to be who they are.

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Drag Queen Pattie Gonia: Nature Isn’t Binary, and Neither Are We

But when that's at that intersection of...

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Drag Queen Pattie Gonia: Nature Isn’t Binary, and Neither Are We

hatred that they spew on other people i really have a hard time with that because i'm like that's what it's always been babe it's always been this projection it's always been this truth that you all haven't been able to accept and i want that freedom for me and i want that freedom for you too yeah

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Drag Queen Pattie Gonia: Nature Isn’t Binary, and Neither Are We

I feel that so hard.

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Drag Queen Pattie Gonia: Nature Isn’t Binary, and Neither Are We

Like walking through the world as a drag performer is very different than being trans, but it also makes me want to be on the defense a little bit more or like the internet nowadays, the politic of nowadays makes me want to be on the defense.

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Drag Queen Pattie Gonia: Nature Isn’t Binary, and Neither Are We

And what I found is being on the offense and giving people a chance often invites this freedom that surprises us both.

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Drag Queen Pattie Gonia: Nature Isn’t Binary, and Neither Are We

And I kind of hate that it's on people like us, but I also really do think it's a pretty radical act to just,

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Drag Queen Pattie Gonia: Nature Isn’t Binary, and Neither Are We

assume the best in 10 people until they prove me otherwise.

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Drag Queen Pattie Gonia: Nature Isn’t Binary, and Neither Are We

And more often than not, I'm actually quite amazed.

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Drag Queen Pattie Gonia: Nature Isn’t Binary, and Neither Are We

Yeah.

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Drag Queen Pattie Gonia: Nature Isn’t Binary, and Neither Are We

I've been really thinking a lot about lately the intersection of social media and my life as a human.

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Drag Queen Pattie Gonia: Nature Isn’t Binary, and Neither Are We

And there is so much to process there about how much profit is to be made by people in power by disconnecting us, by giving us the

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Drag Queen Pattie Gonia: Nature Isn’t Binary, and Neither Are We

false hope of connection via things like social media which is not social media it's interest media the more that we are sitting in our rooms alone on our phones disconnected from nature disconnected from each other the more profit there is to make these things are by design

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Drag Queen Pattie Gonia: Nature Isn’t Binary, and Neither Are We

The moment that we realize that we have more in common with each other and we have more in common with nature than we do with these billionaires who extract from us, who only see value in a forest until it is cut down,

The Nature Of with Willow Defebaugh
Drag Queen Pattie Gonia: Nature Isn’t Binary, and Neither Are We

That is by design.