Paul Haenle
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Yeah, both great questions.
So I think when it comes to Iran, not surprisingly, China sees the conflict as presenting both opportunities and risks.
Clearly, on one hand, you hear Chinese experts stressing that China can benefit strategically if the U.S.
remains focused on the Middle East and not focused on the Indo-Pacific and China.
On the other hand, China does have significant interests at stake.
It remains heavily dependent on energy imports from the Gulf.
It relies on stable global markets to support its economy.
It does want to avoid a global recession that would weaken export demand, especially at a time when China is relying heavily on exports to support its economic growth.
I was in China a couple times this spring, both before and after the presidential summit in Beijing.
And one thing that struck me was how consistently Chinese interlocutors would emphasize their desire for stability.
whether I was meeting with scholars or business leaders or government officials, even CEOs, there was a clear recognition that China can't afford major external shocks while its economy is still facing headwinds and it's trying to regain momentum.
And so I think that explains why China's preferred outcome of the conflict in Iran would be a quick de-escalation.
preserving that regional stability.
Beijing wants energy markets to remain stable.
They want shipping through the Strait of Hormuz to open up again and then to remain uninterrupted.
And Joyce, to your question, they want the broader U.S.-China relationship to remain on more predictable footing, especially ahead of the summit in Washington, D.C.
at the end of September.
So I guess in sum, China is seeking to maximize strategic space
while minimizing strategic disruption.
And China has concluded that, sure, it can benefit from the U.S.
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