Paul Williams

Oh.

I listen to it quite a lot.

It's a fun podcast.

They talk about just the production of a movie.

It's the African Queen, which I haven't seen.

Old sort of film.

I'm not sure.

What is the Boer War?

I think you guys just have now kind of become their rival by saying that tagline because that's exactly what they say on the podcast.

But I listened to that, and yeah, I wouldn't say it's the best episode.

If you're going to listen to What Went Wrong, I wouldn't jump in at The African Queen, but it's an enjoyable podcast.

Do they talk about what went wrong with these films?

They do, but they actually often do really good movies as well.

So often it's like a bomb, but then more often than not, it's probably like a good movie, but that just has an interesting...

No, this office is a production company called Kevin & Co.

And they make Taskmaster New Zealand, which I am on.

And the reason of my trip was actually I have a scripted spy show that is coming out in a week in New Zealand.

Oh, great.

And future guests, dare I say, Joe Thomas.

Joe Thomas from The Inbetweeners.