Payton Moreland
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3,581 appearances
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first heard Nov 2024
last heard Jun 2025
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As the girls got older, Lloyd and Michelle grew apart, and in 2008, Lloyd was offered a job down in New Jersey, but Michelle wasn't keen on the idea of uprooting their lives to go with him. So Lloyd went alone, and Michelle and the kids stayed back in their life in Corning.
And friends of Michelle's said she actually seemed much better for this once her husband moved away, that after Lloyd left, it was as if Michelle was more relaxed. She was happier. And apparently the distance made Lloyd happier, too, because sometime after that move, Lloyd told Michelle he wanted a divorce.
But I do want to mention, although the fact that they're both happy or separate, this divorce wasn't very amicable. In 2013, Michelle moved into a new home with the girls. And while their custody seemed to be split, Lloyd wasn't happy with the arrangement. He wanted sole custody of their daughters. something he fought for for years, even as the girls got older.
I mean, their eldest daughter had moved out for college, as did their middle daughter, Carrie, who in 2017 was living in Syracuse, New York, and attending the Rochester Institute of Technology. But by this point, when he's fighting for custody, their youngest daughter, 14-year-old Charlotte, was living at home with Michelle, who still had shared custody.
which was why the events of August 28th, 2017 were so surprising and devastating. So that afternoon, a neighbor stopped by the house to pick 14 year old Charlotte up for a carpool to swim practice. Only Charlotte didn't seem to be home. Instead, when the neighbor rang the doorbell, they saw Michelle, the mother, through the glass paneling at the front door.
She was standing on the stairway, but she was completely motionless. It was as if she didn't hear the door. She just was standing there. And it actually freaked the neighbor out enough. They called 911. Because they were like, is everything like what is going on? I can see her. So officers were dispatched to the house.
And when they get there, they let themselves in and they found 46 year old Michelle on the staircase still like the neighbor had mentioned. Only she's got a rope around her neck.
And she's died by what appears to be a suicide by hanging. So she wasn't actually standing on the stairs. She was hanging.
It is eerie.
But there's something one of the detectives noticed on Michelle. It's this little U-shaped mark on her chin. Sort of looks like the rope maybe got stuck around her face before it went around her neck. She also appeared to have scratch marks on her face, which told the police she maybe had second thoughts and tried to remove the rope. But they can't say for sure.
All they know right now is that this is very unsettling. So is the fact that Charlotte, her 14-year-old daughter who was supposed to be picked up that day, is nowhere to be found at this point. And when police try to contact her, they can't get a hold of her. She's not answering her cell phone. No one seems to have seen her. So police are wondering, was she home during this?
Is this some sort of homicide kidnapping? There's just so many things about this scene that are alarming.
Yeah. Then later that day, officers get a call down at their station. And it's Michelle's middle daughter. So 19-year-old Carrie, who's in college in New York. She says she got a disturbing phone call from one of her friends. They had heard that her mother might have died by suicide in the home earlier, and Carrie was literally calling the police to find out if this was true.
Now, unfortunately, police do confirm this for Carrie, but they do get a tiny bit of relief when Carrie says that her younger sister Charlotte had been with her for the weekend.
Carrie explains that on Saturday, which Michelle was found on that Monday, Carrie went back to Corning to spend the night with her mom and sister before getting settled into her new apartment and starting her next semester of college.
Apparently, at that point, Carrie had been back and forth between her mom's house and her dad's house, though during that weekend, her dad was supposedly at a job interview in California.
so carrie probably didn't want to stay at her dad's house alone which is why she went to her mom's house but that saturday carrie said she didn't even make it through the night with her mom she got into a huge fight with her mom michelle over the same thing they usually fought about she was taking her dad's side on the divorce particularly the custody battles so rather than spend the night there carrie told charlotte get in the car and leave with me to my apartment and so
According to Carrie, the two sisters drove to Carrie's new apartment to spend the rest of the weekend there and not with their mom. So now police are thinking, OK, if what Carrie is saying is true, then maybe Michelle was so distraught over the fight and both her daughters leaving and just the divorce in general that she did take her own life that weekend in the house alone.
Before she ends the call with police, though, Carrie gives them her father's number, who that weekend was apparently in California. But it seems like they have a pretty hard time trying to get in touch with Lloyd over the next few days. So meanwhile, Michelle's body goes in for an autopsy. And they determined that Michelle did die of asphyxia, but that she likely died late Saturday night.
So this was after Carrie had supposedly left. It was either that.
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