Penn Badgley
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first heard Apr 2025
last heard 31 May
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Yeah, sow your wild oats, like to have sex with a lot of women.
Sure.
Yes.
Well, we think of it like this. You're a gardener and you've got a handful of seed and you're just casting it out into the wilderness.
I might have that power.
Maybe.
Again, again, show me anyone who's able to have it. Truly. And I'm saying, I'm not just saying who does it.
Plenty of people do it.
I feel like you have to always be learning new levels of listening. Because
when you get past the, you know, it's anywhere from the six months to two year mark when the juices, so to speak, the chemicals have like sort of run their course, you may have had something that could be like wildly intoxicating, in some cases that's true, in some cases it may be less or somewhere in between, but you know, studies show about six to 24 months, that runs its course, then you have to
enter into a different kind of relationship. One that we don't see a lot. You know, we don't see it modeled a lot, hardly ever. You know, for reasons that have to do more with like what it takes to tell a good story than reality, you know, in movies and TV and books and stuff. So then you have to think to yourself like, well, what is a relationship for? Not just like, what am I in this for?
What is a relationship for? That's also a question I pose. What is a relationship for? Not just what is it doing for you? What are relationships for? And at some point, I think you just have to realize that you're developing your own narratives and biases that have to be kind of constantly reshaped. You have to check in with them. And so it just means, it's just another level of listening.
And then once you get into parenting, it's... It just adds a level of complexity that's really beautiful and rewarding. When you're parenting, actually, sometimes it can be really practical stuff. We have to schedule time for any kind of intimacy we want to have. If we want to go out, that needs to be in that calendar. And you have to find childcare. It's all this stuff. It's very real.
And that can actually be a surprising amount of work.
Well, I didn't. And I mean, I think, so like the, when we first met, it was kind of, it was immediate. And before we had time to think i think we just we wanted to be together in in the deepest way and i wanted to be there for her son um in whatever way was best his father's always been in his life um
But then the cultural dating laws, which I never abided by, I never understood, but you were pressuring me. I was like, I need to sow my wild oats. What am I doing with this woman with a child? But, you know, I was 28, I think, maybe 27. And I really did think. Is it right for me to be getting into a relationship with a woman who has a child? So the stakes were always significant there.
We both felt that. And so we both actually, after an immediate intense connection and not thinking about it, we then sort of like, we need to think about this more.
And what, I only felt that I was ready once I felt confident to like leave all that, all these notions about what it is to be a man, what it is to date, what I needed to do, who I needed to be sexually once I was able to start really leaving that behind.
Yeah, it's... There's a spiritual component to this, which is really the thing that allowed it to happen. So she and I, we happened to sort of become sober around the same time. We were picking up meditation and prayer and really trying to live with a different sort of framework, you know, independent of one another, but this was happening kind of at the same time.
And I think that was what even created like, the opportunity or the conditions for us to be like, we're dealing with a lot of ways of thinking that are not our own. Some of those ways of thinking are putting a lot of pressure on us
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