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And I felt very guilty resting there.
Let's unpack that because you've talked about this before, the guilt part of it.
We spent so much time talking about this.
Why do I feel like I have to be productive on a trip that's meant to celebrate 50 years of my life and the accomplishments and just celebrate getting to 50?
And all the work that you've done too.
That's a big part of it too.
Because we work most days.
Right.
Period.
Even weekends.
Right.
Doing something.
Doing something.
But I struggled with it.
But by the time, the day we were set to leave, then I was like, I'm ready to stay and unplug now, sir.
Please.
Yeah.
I was like passing me a Greyhound on the way out.
So I have less trouble than you doing this, but I think just because of our lives, I've done less of this.
So just that real kind of like, just be a vegetable and let time slow down and let yourself be bored.