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We've never.
Right?
And for that reason, sometimes we would get back from our vacation and be like, huh.
well, that felt a little bit like most of the other things that we do, but like the true unplugging and like we are not going to do much.
How did you like that and how did you respond to that?
It was hard for me.
Yes, that's not normally something that you want to do.
And we had a lot of discussion about this because there wasn't much, like on purpose, there wasn't much to do.
So like there wasn't a hike to take.
There wasn't, like you could sit there, you could swim.
And then you can sit there again.
So there's just what, there weren't a lot of options.
There was a gym, but that's just sad.
Like, I'm just not going to go to a gym.
It was a nice gym.
I went there.
Yeah, I was like, this is depressing me.
So I feel like it is programmed in, and I don't know if this is a generational thing.
This is a very personal thing.
I have trouble resting.