Penn Jillette

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The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan · Penn Jillette | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan · 14 Jan 2026 podcast

And I had the kind of reaction that only an adolescent boy can have, which is I completely flipped out, and my all A's in school went to all D's.

And I considered scientists to be liars.

And I hated scientists and magicians.

And I just thought that lying

to people on TV about their universe was about as immoral as I could think.

Interesting.

And so I rebelled against that, and it wasn't until I met Randy, and Randy said, you know, you can be honest and still do tricks.

And when Teller told me, when I first met him, I met Teller when I was 17, magic is essentially intellectual.

which was incredible to me, because all magic was to me was, you know, a greasy guy in a tux torturing women in front of Mylar, you know, to bad rip-off Motown music, that was stopping me from seeing The Who, who we're gonna be on later in that show.

And that experiment, can you do magic,

without lying to people and without insulting them and condescending to them, is that possible, became the 50-year experiment that's been a teller.

When people say they're exploring atheism, I always tell them, read the Bible.

In our culture.

Yeah, yeah.

In other cultures, you read the Koran, but read the Bible.

And if that seems groovy to you,

Then stay with it.

I'm going to be, forgive me, a little bit pedantic.

Atheist and agnostic are not in the same continuum.

Okay.

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